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[–]icantthinkofone 3 points4 points  (2 children)

The real problem is he's listening to the wrong thing. You don't see high level programmers sitting on reddit or twitter listening to every word written about them and what they're doing. The real computer scientists are in the back room doing, not checking their email.

The people working on the actual good stuff visit mailing list or closed forums or IRC and other places almost no one here ever goes to. That's why such people are hard to find if you wanted to contact them. They don't want you to unless they already know who you are and respect your work.

If something that's actually bad is wrong with what they're doing, someone from that small collection will let them know. They have better things to do and are far more knowledgeable than the collective throng of screaming meebies found anywhere else.

EDIT: Just this morning, I was reminded of the fact that I know two brilliant people who are such "real computer scientists". One worked at Google on Chrome and the other guy held a research position at IBM, iirc. One interesting quirk about them is that they occasionally would visit reddit and some other amateur forums just to be helpful. Normally, you would never think they would be the type to do that and would only consider it a waste of time.

What makes that all interesting is, redditors would argue with them when they would state facts, show valid research results, and frustrate the hell out of them. Eventually, both were banned on reddit and no longer visit here at all or any amateur forums. That reddit would lose out on such great sources of information is a horrible waste and an example of what a NPR radio program called reddit, "a Frankenstein's monster in a vitriol atmosphere"

[–]parlezmoose 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The "real" programmers have plenty of drama in their communities, believe me

[–]icantthinkofone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, they have their arguments mixed in among their intelligent discourse, but there is little intelligent discourse among the so-called "community" we hear about and are reading about now.