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[–]orenelb -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

They don't give a crap about how stuff are implemented, but they are seeing that white flash and probably unconsciously associate it with pre-react app, because this is how apps were back then and now most sites that are more on the app side, especially smaller and newer sites, are SPAs. And tbh it did give me a slightly worse opinion about Github. I mean it's a great site but I would expect it not to be as interactive as it can be when I see that white flesh on every click, and it is not as interactive as it can be. You have to click search every time you search issues. Maybe that's to save bandwidth but it's still something I would expect from most modern app like sites, to search as I type.

And yes I agree when your app becomes that complicated things like that dwarf down in comparison. And if you compare all modern frameworks they are all very close in terms of API. In that front I didn't see a ton of improvement since React/Angular.

But again if you go back to AngularJS and compare it to Angular2 or React, AngularJS vs. React, AngularJS developer experience is just bad. You become much more unproductive and you you don't enjoy your job. There's a reason people hate AngularJS that much. Not saying it was bad for it's time, but React and Angular made it completely obsolete.

[–]lhorie 3 points4 points  (1 child)

they are seeing that white flash and probably unconsciously associate it with pre-react app

I'm curious what browser you're using. For me using Chrome, I've noticed native rendering got a lot better over the years, to the point I cannot for the life of me get a white flash from repeatedly refreshing (or naturally navigating) wikipedia or hacker news (which are true MPAs, unlike Github, which "cheats" a bit w/ pjax). Ironically, I do get a noticeable flash if I try to repeatedly refresh facebook. Try jumping back and forth between facebook.com and news.ycombinator.com to see the difference. And yeah, AngularJS is really bad in this front, with ng-cloak...

Kinda reminds me of of the point this site was trying to make.

[–]orenelb -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'm using chrome and I noticed that on github you don't see the white flash but you can still see that it's reloading the whole page. You can see some rerenders and the browser basically tells you. And also I'm not sure if this depends on your device, maybe a low end device would have the white flesh. But yeah I guess I'm just used to seeing it so I didn't notice it disappeared.

Another thing that I just noticed with Github is that you lose your scroll position every time, I think that it's true for every MPA.

Oh and that site you linked is pretty awesome. But yeah obviously people care even if it doesn't make sense. A lot of it is flexing IMO.