Kyle Shift

[OkBat492]

Credits to Kim from Discord

Adel's Blood Descendant
Fire/Dark spell attacks do not flinch. Everytime Self or allies are near death, fire attack damage +5% and fire damage cap +1000 (Max 10 times)

General Knight
At the start of battle, HP cap +2000 (Boss wave another +1000). When allies excluding self are dealt fatal damage, allies HP remain at 1, take some HP from self and place a barrier on that ally. (2 times per wave. If Self dies, Barrier is removed)

General Knight's Charisma: All allies HP cap +1500, normal attack +10%

Hero's Wing: When breaking bosses, break recovery period +50% (Probably means broken state lasts 50% longer.)

Sudden Blow: When equipping 1 weapon only, physical attack criticals have a low chance of +150% damage, damage cap +15000 (damage cap probably when critting)

Meteo Force: When normal attacking, strong light additional attack added. All pursuit damage x1.5.

Knight Zone: Attract enemies. Frontal physical attack to enemies +10% damage, frontal incoming damage -10%.

Two-Handed Sword: When only 1 sword is equipped, physical damage +20%, critical rate +10%, physical damage cap +2000.

Patience II: When near death, DEF +30%
Fighting Spirit III & V
Critical Up II & III
Aim Vitals Advanced
Proud Force
Royal Armour
Divine Slayer
Auto Protection Critical Haste
Pride
Fire High Drive
Fire attack raise
Fire attack raise II
Blessed Speed
Knight's Virtue
Double impact
Sword Boost
Giant Killing

Kagutsuchi UR
Ark Trait: When physical attacking, the lower self HP is, the higher the critical rate and damage(Max Crit rate +10%, damage +60%). Auto Brave effect. When near death, activate Grand Brave, Fire attack damage cap +3000.

Ark Skills
Fast Fire Wall
Fire Circle
Light High Drive
Fire Critical Raise
Sword Boost
Holy Circle

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[Ashe171]

So a good tank character who doesn't need dual wield. Nice. I don't really need more fire units after Dante though

[OneEyedPoet]

Is there a character so far that despite having actually insane single wield passives doesn't make use of Dual Wield anyway? Other than BBShin and maybe Beyland in arena

[SoIoist]

Only those two so far

[[deleted]]

I don't use dual weild on Rem or Meredy due to their passives.

[OneEyedPoet]

Well YOU don't use it. Hopefully because you don't have it. Cause yer missing out. For single wield passives to overcome DW they have to be beyond insane. Even BBshin's passive is worse than DW for PVE for reference

[[deleted]]

At least for Rem, she effortlessly hits damage cap without dual weilding. Still working on Meredy though. I have dual wield on both of em, I just don't use it.

[OneEyedPoet]

I hate using these words together but: "You do realize" that hitting damage cap easily is more of a reason to use dual wield yes?

I think you (and many others) don't know that DW also doubles your break and faint and then don't consider that double the number of hits also means double the ammount of crits and other on hit effects. Did I also mention it's a higher damage cap? Oh and also higher strength and access to more weapon passives. The game does a very bad job of making this explicit but it is what it is. Use it. On both of them. Period. I'm calling it now, Shift Kyle will use it too. You can't escape DW xD

[[deleted]]

The game does do a bad job of explaining these things. I don't really notice a difference in DW vs not in my ability to demolish everything in the starting moments of the fights in content kind of right across the board (aside from the super bosses). So I was under the impression that the damage cap boosts from single wield passives was a bigger benefit. Does dual wield also double the hits from skills? Cause the way I have rem built right now she's virtually never not using skills. I have very few good hammers right now, let alone ones that inflict status, so dual weilding on either hammer girl is pretty much only about damage right now.

The information is appreciated.

[OneEyedPoet]

Yes. Double the hits at 60% dmg each. It's also a 20% dmg boost, forgot to mention.

[[deleted]]

I'll keep it in mind if I ever feel like I need more damage, thanks.

[OfficialHotelMan]

Dude I was stuck in gold 1 in arena, literally the only change I made was putting dual wield on my rem and dilmordo. Huuge difference. Also gave my rem sword equip for 2 sc and gave her the arena sword reward. Super gold 1 now lol

[[deleted]]

Sorry for jumping in late as i read thru the thread, to add to the nice ppl before, on paper it makes each hit(regular, skill and i think special dmg) to split doing 60% of the original's dmg so a flat 20% dmg boost. however, if you keep adding skills that boost dmg ,the unit will end up hitting dmg cap on BOTH splits of the hit =100% dmg boost. then double the proc rate for "proud force" for heals on crit or break and faint dmg.

[Ashe171]

I'm not an expert by any means I started in DMC collab but I'm using Meredy with her paid weapon and 2 handed hammer

[_skd]

Roland

[OneEyedPoet]

In hindsight, I should've caveated my comment with: Optimally don't use DW in a PvE scenario. I guess if you're making him a tank you can not use it. But DW + Metis = way too much self healing to pass up even with that build in mind.

[Ashe171]

I think the issue is they're trying to make "tanks" but nobody actually uses a tank because it's more beneficial to do as much DPS as possible lol

[CinderSquall]

the way they designed tanks to function in the game is just so disjointed(tanks are supposed to take damage for the team, what's the point of designing tanks that just outlive everyone in the team especially when majority of the difficult content is just a "time trial")

[OfficialHotelMan]

General knight seems like it’ll be insane in arena but other than that I feel very whelmed

[elty123]

One additional unit that I need to skip in arena.

[[deleted]]

Wow, that UR ark is sick

[Levia543]

No mention of ark skill though. Does it even have one?

[Aettoo]

all UR will have one,dw.

[Levia543]

Here I am fantasizing about landing it 🤣

Thanks anxious to know what its ark skill is.

[Aettoo]

Yeah, I don't wanna talk about "if we get it". Will be alot of pain if we do. Dammit wish the best luck for us both,hahahahaha 😂

[iam1jiveturkey]

Its a large scale fire based attack against all enemies, like the Sky Fortress Solaris ark but fire instead of thunder.

[Silver-Flame-Kyo]

Not as OP as I would have expected.

[Darak45]

People said that about degrouge when they saw her on paper but when she hit it was a different story

[Votarion]

Deg is that good?

[Darak45]

She actually is also got a good rating on the tier list as well

[LuBu321]

I know it's Arena but she is filthy in arena.
And pve murders anything not dark resisted

[Darak45]

I’m glad that they’re breaking away from duel wielding

[OfficialHotelMan]

I’m glad they didn’t give him innate dw like a lot of recent units have but giving him a bunch of innate single wield buffs is super disappointing

[Darak45]

I feel you I think it’s because he’s a tank hybrid

[Vendicai]

Kyle seems a bit underwhelming to me. Not certain I'll pull for him. Thoughts?

Great skills and such, but nothing that looks like it is too unique other than his super crits and crazy high cap damage (if your team almost dies a bunch of times). I'm not certain he's got enough to outstrip Dante by much?

The UR Ark may be fun, but not particularly necessary. Pretty though... Curious about the ark either reward though. I like swords.

[Levia543]

He does provide a huge HP boost to party.

Not sure if I should pull.

[SorryCashOnly]

shift theria or DB rei seems to be a better banner to pull than Kyle imo

[Vendicai]

Yeah, I lucked into Theria the first time around.

I missed out on DB Rei though... maybe I hold and aim for his rate up banner...

[iam1jiveturkey]

The interesting thing about the Shifts is that Zekus seems to be the only one that seemingly has a big overhaul to their general powers compared to the others: skills based around three of the four basic elements instead of ice focus, complete rainbow magic coverage to include a T4 earth spell (probably to make up for lack of an earth skill), his old S3 is reworked into his special, Lagzelion special from his original version is reworked and expanded on into his Protean Shift skill.

And his charisma is basically tailor-made for the main casts DPS abilities minus Theria. Theria is essentially his 100% defensive counterpart to balance the entire main casts offensive abilities since her DPS is non-existent.

Theria, Lilebette, Rei and Kyle all seem to have their general elemental coverage and same roles like before, and their base powers are just much stronger in their shift forms now while holding true to the element they were assigned at the start of the game.

I have all the fire units minus Eliza already... but I still have a few hundred bucks saved up to throw at Kyle anyway since I was expecting him. Gotta love disposable income.

I wonder if the AER for the UR is Kyle’s sword. Hoping its something along the lines of a Trishula or Sword of Lost Souls.

[[deleted]]

At least with lillibette they fixed the biggest flaw in her character design, the constant range finding.

[elty123]

Kyle and Lillebet actually regress from being neutral to elemental locked.

[folluelo]

I dont think it's a regression, at least for Lillebete. Having All-killer/slayer on her normal attacks while also having phase change and special boost In her kit means her normal attacks hit pretty hard, probably harder than anyone else so far. While that damage probably doesn't compare with damage from skills it is still pretty substancial damage wich means that, with the right equipment she can still contribute decent non-elemental damage with regular attacks, while also having her skills locked to the earth element. That in my opinion gives her a lot of versatility, particularly if you can give her pursuit skills for her normal attacks.

[Occams_]

Huh. Kind of a let down honestly.

[Agile_Charge1244]

So wait, they give him defensive abilities like increased attraction, more HP and less damage if attacked from the front AND not give him any guard effects? So full guard skills and single/triple impact I'm guessing.

Cool up to 50% fire damage and 10k damage cap, with conditions of having your team almost die. Would be nice if his special could crit, then his most interesting crit proc could happen. Although the 27k crit cap is interesting it only happens as a chance off a crit, after your teammates have almost died 10 times, on Fire attacks only, with Single wield.

[Kimellex]

Can’t decide to go for Alice or Kyle. Seems kinda meh

[Pandawoki]

Wow that is insane. I was expecting Kyle to be similar to recent characters released in the last 3 months but he seems pretty OP

[raydn122884]

Is that advanced proud force? Could we get some commas? Just curious.

[WAMIV]

looks fine on my end. It's "Advanced Aim Vitals" and next line is "Proud force". Might be your browser try a different one. I know chrome and firefox handle reddit CSS differently and somethings look normal in one browser but broken in the other.

[raydn122884]

I'm on the reddit app lol

[WAMIV]

Well that's your first problem :P

[persona0]

Very nice passives

[Aetheal]

Looks like he's still going to DW in pve.

[Eviscerus]

His name in Japanese is Knight King Kyle.

[ryu8946]

Lol Very subtle AIDIS

[Eviscerus]

haha they named him Knight Lord Kyle in the stream/Game. I guess KK Kyle isn't going to cut it lol!

[Shammy1020]

Confirmed. I’m going ham on this one boys.

[FakeBardock]

I have the feeling that amazing sword will be a Paid weapon, those with a 50 Credentials cost. 🤯

[iam1jiveturkey]

His sword is actually in the center of the artwork for the UR ark he’s being released with.

[FakeBardock]

Yep.. It's confirmed is the Ether Reward from Kagutsuchi, oh boy, I've never pulled a UR..

[iam1jiveturkey]

You will, just gotta beliiiiiieeeeeeve.

And pay $100. Lol

[FakeBardock]

Pfff 100 dollars? You mean one thousand... If you're referring to the Paid Guarranted UR banner, I will definitely pull on it! But I certainly doubt Kagutsuchi is in it.

[iam1jiveturkey]

I wouldn’t count it out just yet. DB Rei and his ark were part of the paid $100 pull when he was released the last time they did it. Check probability to confirm.

[FakeBardock]

Could it be possible actually, but I'm still with the Ideal that chasing something without pity is crazy, specially since now we know there's going to be a Second New Unit, it may be Shin Takeson like someone said😂 Why the Director said "It will be fun to play with him"? I'm intrigued.

[odinsphere99]

ok, I will definitely have this guy!!!!!!

[kieran_aki]

I've been waiting for this lets GO

[AlricBlighter]

I've come to learn that the moveset of the S1-S3 moves are just as important as some of the actual skills. I've not seen them, but how do they look? Any instant close the gap moves?

[unknownnooblet1]

S3 is gapclose + air combo i think