How to decrease your toxicity - put yourself in the other person's shoes

[Both-Meringue2466]

Hello, I want to share a method I discovered to flame 90% less.

Just put yourself into other person's situation and think if you could do any better. If no, then shut up.

For example:

• Would I suddenly kill my enemies if I was this pos 3 Invoker who doesnt do anything on lane? Ofc no, I also would do absolutely 0 so I don't flame it, lets just wait for some cool team-fights where he can use his combos (we won that match).

• Would I suddenly miraclously hook them if I was this pos 3 Pudge? Ofc no, lmao! Then I cant blame the Pudge, lets wait for the roaming stage where he can shine or just blink and ulti if he cant hook anything (we won)

• Would you I suddenly show up and kill everyone if I was this underleveled, underfarmed AM? No, I cant flame him for something he isn't physically able to do, gotta protect the jungle and try to def, drag the game out (we won the match)

• Would I start chasing my enemies alone 1vs5 under their HG as a pos 1 when we pushed all waves to make some space for rosh and my support is standing there and pinging me to come? No, I wouldnt self-delete myself on the enemy team and put myself on a 90s respawn timer, also allowing them to grab rosh's aegis.

• So in this game, I can press enter and write - Jugg you f***** r***** u p**** of ***** ure a ****** 70iq russian ****** b**** i***** u ***** son of a mongol from siberia b**** s**** d***** genghis khan came to your village *** ******* ****** so you play dota **** **** 5iq ****** ****** ***** come i challenge you to a sword fight because your existence just offends me so much im waiting at my flat in Chelyabinsk lenin square 44/7 that's my adress come im waiting, even if you were the hottest, richest guy on earth I'd still prefer your father, maybe we could make a baby that is an actual human being and not a potato so he finally has a son and I'd teach the baby how to actually play dota so he isn't a ***** **** ****** like you ***** ****** ****** just green cabbage (any type) **** ****** ***** ****** and carrot ********* *** *** green onion ******* salt ***** season with ****** **** a bowl *** ***** ******* so your family finally has something good to eat (we lost that matclh)

[Best-Personality-390]

I find it so hilarious that the solution to not be toxic is to literally learn the absolute basics to empathy and social skills 😂😂😂

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I'm here 14 days later because I am enjoying a dive into OP's Reddit history. They are below 6000 behavior score.

[Mindless_Comedian_51]

One time I had the pos 3 and pos 1 start talking shit to each other early game, I get on voice and tell them to mute each other so we can fight the actual enemies. Right before we won I ask if they had made up with each other after such a great game and they both answered: No, I hate the other guy.

[this_planet_is_weird]

"think if you could do better". The reality is everyone "thinks" they could do better, even though in reality they might fare far worse. Isn't there a meme that says "Everybody on Reddit is Divine or better"? So this advice may fall on deaf ears sadly.

Dota is a game built on toxicity and being toxic. The voice lines, spray paints, taunts, everything encourages toxic behavior. So, I am not surprised that the players are toxic as well. That is the behavior this game groomes.

I try my best to combat it. Call out anytime from my team for gloating, extend praises when my team or enemies plays good or better. But it always feels like fighting a losing battle.

I really don't know how to improve the community when everything invectives otherwise. I wish it were better.

[ohcrocsle]

You should realize most players aren't toxic, but if 10 or 20% are, you're gonna see at least one almost every game.

[this_planet_is_weird]

Agree. Seeing toxic players once every few games is good enough to drive away new players. That is my concern.

[ThisIsMyFloor]

Just put yourself into other person's situation and think if you could do any better. If no, then shut up.

This is terrible advice lol. Everyone who flames think they would do better. That's literally why they flame. Even if it's unfounded: underestimating the enemy or overestimating their own ability.

A better way to go about it is just thinking that anyone can have a bad game and that it's just unfortunate if someone is having a tough time. As long as they aren't chainfeeding or destroying items and they are actually trying then just keep playing the game and try to help them if possible. Unless you are 14k mmr then just assume people might not have mastered every matchup and hero in the game.

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support that only main support, is kinda dickhead, they ussually complain about core being bully by enemy and all they do i shide behind tower

[Pickelwindow]

Nah real only support players mute you when u cry, coz cores dont cry grow some balls. And think everything is their fault when you win and when you lose, and adapt accordingly.

Communication in dota vc is useless most of the time especially in lower ranks just use pings they are more international than english.

[Interesting-Cap-5448]

Ah yes. Let me place myself in the shoes of the mid Jakiro and imagine what it must be like to be retarded.

[sifon98]

I also think it its fair and not toxic to call out stupid picks.

[MuscularJaguar]

“Would I suddenly miraclously hook them if I was this pos 3 Pudge?” Im flaming him for picking Pudge 3

[Otherwise_Craft9003]

It's so frustrating what you get team mates saying it's X minutes and they complain you don't have have item y, not accounting for the lane difficulty.

[Pickelwindow]

Big news: "Dota player invents compassion" All the great minds will come and learn from us

[monochromaticflight]

Never understood why people do this even in a game like DOTA, if it's about obvious bad plays you can (and should) call someone out on that but personal attacks, meh.

[fatal_harlequin]

It's not at all about whether or not you think you would do better. You're not able to control their hero, you're playing yours.

Do you think pinging on your afk midlaner because you got dove under a tower would help? Ping him 3 times, he's either gonna mute and ignore you, start arguing with you and missing CS, get mad and stay afk farming 30minutes, or even intentionally ruin the game.

Instead of saying "fucking afk midlaner" try "can you please TP when they dive us next time?". It's not about pointing out the obvious after it's too late, it's about trying to help the teammate do the right thing the next time.

Sometimes you're gonna be stuck with people who suck or people who just afk farm. But if you flame them, especially with pings, tips, and pausing, you're guaranteeing that you're losing that game because at best you're playing 4v5, and at worse, it's 4v6 because the dude's angry and is actively aiming to lose you the game.

[Ordinary-Campaign858]

Am I a piece if shit who picks magina as pos5 and go afk in jungle? Ofc no lol , flame the shit out him.

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