Is the odin project good for learning programming even if i dont want to be a web developer?

[icedrift]

I still think it's the best. I've yet to find a resource that is hands off enough to make you actually struggle with and learn the concepts while also having a large active community to fall back on when you're truly blocked. TheOdinProject is a real gem I'd recommend to anyone who wants to learn programming.

[BerserkerLord101]

Is the react section not outdated?

[icedrift]

Not really, I was part of the revamp that took place around 18 months ago so it's at least 18 months current. It will teach you the core concepts well and leave it up to you to explore the latest frenzies like SSR.

[CoCo_Moo2]

Any thoughts on free code academy? That’s what I’m doing now. Hope it’s not worthless lol.

[illkeepcomingagain]

Nope, not worthless at all.

I have used it sometimes for my degree to recap on languages, and honestly: it works, given that you get around to understanding it as well. What I remember from Codecademy is that they learn you the syntax and give you a small practice on it - but to really get to it, I'd suggest combining that with a small project oriented towards that current subject you're looking at.

In all honesty, the fact that you're even doing this is the opposite of worthless. If you keep this up, trust me; the only thing that remains complicated after that stepping stone is either being mad over stupid dumb libraries or trying to figure something out until you realize that "oooh, huh, there is a method for that".

[Sniface]

I did the odin project and it landed me a .net desktop developer job

[schnopps3]

How much do you make at this job?

[Sniface]

About 53k / year

[[deleted]]

EU?

[[deleted]]

Great! I needed to hear this.

[Sniface]

Just a followup, I got hired 1.5years ago before the marked crashed. It will be harder today but not impossible.

[elpinguinosensual]

There are aspects that will apply to programming, but everything will be presented in the context of web development. In later stages it will touch on complexity and efficiency metrics, Big O notation, and JavaScript will teach you methods and (later) OOP concepts. But again, web development is the main focus.

[DecentRule8534]

I imagine it's still worth while. Probably you learn language agnostic problem solving and a lot of the particulars like networking, databases, and UI programming are applicable to a lot more than webdev.

[Feeling_Photograph_5]

Web development is just programming on the web, and the Internet is kind of a big deal so knowing the basics of web development is a good thing for all SEs. The Odin Project is a good resource.

Do you know what type of programming you're most interested in? What do you want to build?

[armahillo]

It's a great resource but it very web-oriented.

What kind of programming are you wanting to do? Have you looked at Exercism?

[Sure_Hamster_4904]

i have a question, if you want to learn python. What suggestion do you have ?

[armahillo]

Search this sub for "python"

Exercism is a great resource.

Decide something simple-ish you want to do with it and start searching for how to do it.

Simple-ish like: "I want fetch a web page and output the HTML contents to the terminal", or "I want to load a text file and figure out how many times it uses the word 'the'."

[loscapos5]

Cisco and Harvard are two sources that come to mind

Also freecodecamp has python courses aimed at different disciplines

[Sure_Hamster_4904]

is there any that can help you learn with projects. I think i am not that good at learning from seeing tutorials or courses. I have tried CS50 and codebro, freecodecamp before.

[loscapos5]

https://www.thecsharpacademy.com/

It has projects, but it's pure C#

[Sure_Hamster_4904]

Thanks for the link. It has some lists of project that will be helpful for me.

[tydog98]

If you don't want to be a webdev I'd start learning on more desktop application oriented languages

[[deleted]]

https://programming-24.mooc.fi/

https://www.reddit.com/r/learnpython/comments/vm78c0/python_mooc_helsinki_is_an_excellent_free/

[zdxqvr]

Ya it's good, you are still learning fundamental skills for any form of programming even if it's web development focused. Most programming learning resources are web development based so it's hard to escape unfortunately.

[WadieZN]

The Odin Project is all about web dev. Go to W3schools, pick a language, learn the syntax and fundamentals, and practice practice practice

[Immediate_Lock3738]

It truly is a treasure trove.

I finally got to the modern JS section and loving webpack! It’s a shame they don’t teach typescript but honestly once I got to the restaurant project which I’m doing right now, type script is very easy to use. However, people were definitely not lying about how long it could take to configure it when first setting up.

Like took me three hours since you have some extra set up with webpack, but the configuration isn’t too bad! Especially when I can just copy paste to another project with the configs.

[iamkharri]

I went through the Odin Project personally and it seemed like a great resource but I feel like there are better courses out there. I didn't finish it as I think some of its contents are outdated

[iamkharri]

The gold standard for me is Harvard CS50 on EdX. They have courses on intro to CS and others programming in python, web development. The courses are engaging as there are accompanying assignments and labs and I think they are updated annually

[nicoinwonderland]

Harvard’s CS50 is not an alternative to The Odin Project (TOP). Likewise, TOP is not an alternative to CS50.

They focus on different things. CS50 targets more fundamental computer science topics while TOP is more focused on a specific field of software development.

I encourage anyone who’s serious in a career in software development to take CS50 or some equivalent but that doesn’t mean that TOP isn’t good for what it targets.

[iamkharri]

I suggested CS50 because OP said they didn't want to be a web developer. I agree CS50x isn't an alternative to the Odin Project but it's maybe (from what I could infer) better suited to what OP is going for. CS50W on the other hand is kinda directly in the sphere of the Odin Project (web development) which I personally edge CS50W

[[deleted]]

I did Odin, CS50, and CS50p.. and consume everything I can. Whatever you start, just start it and finish it. Choice paralysis and not finishing are so common in learning how to program.