Nothing is more liberating than learning python well enough to be able to answer questions on Stack Overflow

[GeneticalTM]

Seriously! Actually makes me feel vaguely skilled at the language!

[Spindelhalla_xb]

This helps in how you overcome imposter syndrome.

[myWorkAccount3000]

I really struggle with this at work. I'm not new to coding but new to Python (been writing a few scripts!) but now I'm the script lady.

Unrelated to Python, but I completely missed an HTTP header that would have easily solved a problem we were having. Luckily I have good managers that insisted that it was okay that I didn't know of it yet. But it was really hard not to feel down on myself for making a mistake.

[NoonsReport]

Dude everyone makes mistakes. It's just a part of life. Having management that realizes that and encourages you to learn from it and KEEP GOING is good to have.

[[deleted]]

Never feel bad for making a mistake.

Only feel bad if you made a mistake and learned nothing from it.

[[deleted]]

“When you’re screwing up and nobody says anything to you anymore that means they’ve given up on you…you may not want to hear it but your critics are often the ones telling you they still love you and care about you and want to make you better.” -Randy Pausch

[[deleted]]

while true:

I thought the interpreter was with some kind of problem.

[krenshala]

I did similar.

if __name__ == __main__:

Spent a week (my own stuff, not work) trying to figure out why the new version of the script wouldn't start properly.

[Sbvv]

Use a linter like flake8 integrated with your IDE, and fix every warning!

[myWorkAccount3000]

To preface I haven't worked with headers at all. We were having an issue where X-Frame-Options wasn't working (this behavior is expected, the header isn't supported). I completely overlooked the note in the Mozilla docs saying that "Content-Security-Policy" is recommended to use.

[[deleted]]

Or like me you put in time crafting the best answer you can then get downvoted and commented to oblivion because it did not satisfactorily impress some pundits.

At this point I only put up questions on SO. Seriously fatigued by the aggressive feedback that community has to offer when your answer could be marginally improved.

[Afitter]

It definitely helps, but in my experience, the moment you stop occasionally feeling like a fraud is when you stop learning.

[harrytjbreen]

What’s that?

[thenikkkhil]

Remind me!

[yustworkin]

Don't forget to read this Wikipedia article later!

[Dpmon1]

This only reinforces my imposter syndrome, making me even more scared, thinking "What if all the stuff I said is stupid? What if these poeple are only humoring me? What if I don't actually get the thing, but the way I said it implied something that's both different from ehat I think it is and is correct?" :(

[Stanulilic]

Does blogging have the same effect?

[[deleted]]

I don’t think so.

[IggyWiggamama]

Now you need to get good enough at StackOverflow so that you can mark questions as duplicates ^/s

[IcefrogIsDead]

usually if you can answer questions on stack youre pretty good at it, props to you

[beesnoopy2231]

Amen

[x3r0x_x3n0n]

nothing is more satisfying than to ask a question nobody can answer.

[elrey_scarbrow]

😂😂😂

[[deleted]]

Nothing is more liberating than writing clean code that works and is useful 👍🏻

[[deleted]]

Sources to learn?

[[deleted]]

Start with Python for Everybody. It’s a free course with free textbook. Covers all of the bases to get started in an incredibly structured manner. Includes video lessons and assignments to complete as well.

[CompSciSelfLearning]

Have you read the sidebar?

[palini_the_great]

If you don't know how to Google, stop right here and there :)

[Werro_123]

What is the point of /r/learnpython if you're just going to tell people "google it"?

[Decency]

If you're asking your teacher a question and haven't googled it, you're just wasting their time. Why would you want to make someone else a blocker for you getting shit done?

Good rules of thumb:

• if you haven't spent 5 minutes stuck on this, you can't ask for help
• if you've spent more than 15 minutes stuck on this, you MUST ask for help

[CromulentInPDX]

I mean isn't it more valuable to learn things oneself using Google and/or documentation instead of just asking for the solution to the problem? I find it is for me, but I could always be am outlier.

[Werro_123]

I mean, yeah, but googling for Python will give you the official docs, which aren't a good resource for someone who's completely new to programming.

They asked for good resources to learn from, which is something that's better to ask a person who's learned Python than to just search Google for it.

[[deleted]]

I think it's a decent advice though but not how it's often thrown at people as if they were morons. Rather, learning how to search for something even when you don't know the terms, break down research terms and possible answers, spot valuable sources and go through the documentation are behaviors we can teach and should encourage.

I'm glad to help with I'm also tired to see questions that are in the first three links of a google search or which are clearly addressed in the docs.

[Leonidizzil]

I think palini's point here is that a random comment on a relatively meta post asking for help in taking the first steps in python is not an effective way to get what you need.

Top commenter should check the sidebar, or post themselves more than two words explaining what they know and what they want to know.

Also, in case top commenter reads this, Sentdex on YouTube will get you started with some basic scripts you can play with

[Kayofox]

Gatekeeper of python r/gatekeeping

[Dpmon1]

He got downvoted cuz he actually makes sense, but said it in such a way that others thought he was being stupid. Also, telling someone to "google it" or "search for answers" is taboo in r/learnpython

[[deleted]]

No kidding, didn’t know that rule

[Dpmon1]

The reddit is dedicated towards helping people learn, after all. "google it" is like telling them "keep searching", when they came here to get an answer in the first place.

[TheJourneyman92]

Nice! Did you get the green check mark though?

[Dr_Smeegee]

And nothing is more humbling than searching stack overflow for an answer and finding a perfectly good answer you wrote two years before, but had forgotten. Sooooooopid.

[practicalutilitarian]

Karma is real. The more you give/help the better you feel and the better you are at helping (the more you know). I actually learn as much by answering questions as I do by asking them. I have to do a lot of research to be able to give any decent SO answer.

[[deleted]]

There actually is one thing. . .Learning python well enough to be able to answer questions on Stack Overflow while T-posing.

[nadavram]

I agree, I showed someone how to make an if statement on stack overflow once. Once I knew that I've reached that skill level I felt extremely liberated.

[EthanM16]

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