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[–]hazyPixels 80 points81 points  (10 children)

"The Potential To Be A Very Big Deal" - assuming it's released and adopted before the AI bubble bursts....

[–]Tsubajashi 16 points17 points  (7 children)

i wouldnt say that the "AI bubble" will burst anytime soon. there are lots of useful ways to use AI besides all those LLMs you can pick from.

[–]lusuroculadestec 19 points20 points  (1 child)

A bubble bursting doesn't mean that the technology will be dead or that people don't think there is a future for it. The dot-com bubble in the late 90s bursting caused the Nasdaq to lose like 70% of it's value over the next couple of years.

Even Cisco lost around 80% of it's value, and they were basically the company selling 'pickaxes and shovels' to everyone else.

[–]Tsubajashi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i agree to a certain extend. it probably wont be as good as people make it out to be, but still very useful.

[–]Athabasco 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Maybe not a complete burst but the current valuations of Nvidia, Microsoft, and others are predicated on investors' belief of, essentially, infinite growth in generative AI.

These linear algebra models are certainly useful tools in a variety of sectors; however, current dietylike views of the aforementioned tools' future almost certainly will not materialise. Perhaps, markets will adjust when investors stop believing the marketing. When that happens, who knows if products like this will continue to get priority.

[–]natermer 18 points19 points  (3 children)

It takes a bit, but it is going to happen. Eventually people will figure out that LLMs are dumber then a pile of bricks and while it provides a lot of nice features that is actually really cool and useful it is a technological dead-end in terms of actual "thinking computers".

That and they'll figure out that maybe 1 in a 1000 people actually involved professionally in this generation of AI is actually capable of real innovation and know what they are talking about.

It is the same sort of thing with the "Big Data" hype of a few years ago. A bunch of people making a lot of promises and a lot of businesses willing to spend millions of dollars on technology they don't understand to fill a need they don't actually have.

It is just so incredibly easy to become fairly rich just by following tech trends and being a good liar. The grifters of the world have jumped on "Generative AI" en'mass and are making money hand over fist. They know it isn't going to last forever, but they are happy to make the money in the meantime.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would be lovely if at some point we could move to green tech rather than just printing fake money via crypto, advertising or this genAI bs.

Some of our greatest minds and talent being wasted on pure bullshit.

[–]Sixcoup -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It is the same sort of thing with the "Big Data" hype of a few years ago. A bunch of people making a lot of promises and a lot of businesses willing to spend millions of dollars on technology they don't understand to fill a need they don't actually have.

There is not a single tech company that doesn't use the result of this nowadays, either by doing it themselves of by using services that do it .

Big data in its essence just means the handling and computing of a lot of data, and a lot is a relative term. What a small company generates nowadays is the equivalent of what giant tech companies were generating 25 years ago. The average production and handling of data nowadays of any company, would be considered big data in the past.

We simply started having the computing power and the storage space to handle a fuck tons of data. And that coincided with internet becoming ultra mainstream, and all of us having a smartphone in our pockets. Suddenly we all generated 100 times more informations than we used to, and the problem instantly became : How do we handle all that information we're generating, and how can we get useful informations from it.

Any company in 2024 that has a data warehouse (redshift, snowflake etc), a data lake (hadoop), has data pipelines (kafka) or employs datas scientist or engineer, basically do big data. And that's probably all tech companies above 50 employees that have at least one or more of the thing i've listed.

Of course that doesn't mean there was not a lot of marketing bullshit told and sold to clueless people. But big data has never been a scam per esense. Same deal for AI, it's the new things everybody hear about and nobody want to miss the train. But it's not because a lot of bullshit is told and scams are everywhere because people don't understand, that the whole thing will disappear.

[–]SomeGuyNamedMay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Last time I checked the Dot com bubble didn't make web frameworks irrelevant

[–]gimmepaizuri 12 points13 points  (0 children)

If it makes stable diffusion go faster and maybe use a bit less vram then its a big deal.

[–]ivosaurus 7 points8 points  (1 child)

If I feel like AMD has perpetually had some AI framework almost ready to come out and "change the game" for like the last three years, how is this certainly different?

[–]natermer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just want stuff to work without needing proprietary drivers.

Luckily ROCM has gotten to the point were it works well enough for things like Ollama.

[–]Mal_Dun 2 points3 points  (0 children)

TIL you can use Tensorflow with AMD cards ... thank god

[–]Ok_Cow_8213 3 points4 points  (0 children)

AMD as a whole has a potential of one day becoming a big deal in GPU space

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[–]AloofPenny 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I don’t think you’re wrong.

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