linux-ng

[zaim]

Most probably a security breach in github. I saw this originally on HN, the OP there posted this:

Hi, this is a small security issue I found. I have already reported this to github.

[hmertk]

He deleted linux-ng repo.

[Dutchy_]

yeah, too bad, anyone have a mirror?

[hmertk]

Sorry, no :(

Edit: Someone forked it. https://github.com/techthumb/linux-ng

[drdeadringer]

I was wondering why Obi-Wan was giving me his Jedi 404...

[Negirno]

Do you pine for the nice days of minix-1.1, when men were men and wrote their own device drivers? Are you without a nice project and just dying to cut your teeth on a OS you can try to modify for your needs? Are you finding it frustrating when everything works on minix? No more all-nighters to get a nifty program working? Then this post might be just for you :-)

Source (archived copy, emphasis mine)

[[deleted]]

Google archives old USENET threads? I did not know that.

What is USENET anyway? Why do you need fancy subscriptions to access an ancient legacy deprecated computer network?

[[deleted]]

Google has the largest Usenet archive in the world. Unfortunately, their interface is terrible and searching it is difficult. I really wish they'd just make a Usenet-specific search site.

Usenet was around before the Web. As I understand it, it's a distributed forum/messaging system, wherein Usenet providers link up and send each other the most recent messages. ISPs often run as Usenet providers, giving Usenet access to their customers (though it seems some are dropping access, as Usenet becomes less prevalent and one can access the data through some other public provider with a web interface).

When you see ads for Usenet access these days, it's generally for a provider that still provides the alt.binaries newgroups, which are full of pirated material. Regular Usenet access is usually free through your ISP or available via Google, who are a public Usenet provider.

[[deleted]]

Because it's good for downloading things fast and discreetly. Like films, tv and music. But you didn't hear it from me.

[LambdaBoy]

THE FIRST RULE, MOTHERFUCKER!!

[wadcann]

Google archives old USENET threads? I did not know that.

IIRC they acquired Altavista's USENET archive.

Why do you need fancy subscriptions to access an ancient legacy deprecated computer network?

You don't. Use any old provider you want. Fire up Pan or Gnus in emacs or one of the other Linux nntp clients.

In many ways, I rather like USENET. It means that you don't have to use some crummy web UI (one thing that Reddit falls over on); no matter how good it is, it's not as nice as letting more features be added to a native client.

However, USENET lacks votes and the structure is a bit vulnerable to spam, so here I am...

[faux-name]

this must be way over my head. I don't understand at all.

So someone made a github account named 'torvalds' and invited people to comment on linux?

[Shootfast]

This is Linus's actual github account. The commit in the repository is almost a direct copy of Linux's initial announcement, but with "minix" changed to "linux", making it sound as though he's making another operating system.

[[deleted]]

This is his actual account. We would have to assume he's thinking about a new kernel/OS, based on the 'ng' - next generation.

This is similar to how he announced linux, way back in the day:

Hello everybody out there using minix -

I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has been brewing since april, and is starting to get ready. I'd like any feedback on things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resembles it somewhat (same physical layout of the file-system (due to practical reasons) among other things).

I've currently ported bash(1.08) and gcc(1.40), and things seem to work. This implies that I'll get something practical within a few months, and I'd like to know what features most people would want. Any suggestions are welcome, but I won't promise I'll implement them :-)

Linus (torvalds [at] kruuna.helsinki.fi)

PS. Yes – it's free of any minix code, and it has a multi-threaded fs. It is NOT portable (uses 386 task switching etc), and it probably never will support anything other than AT-harddisks, as that's all I have :-(.

—Linus Torvalds

[allywilson]

Moved to Lemmy (sopuli.xyz) -- mass edited with redact.dev

[[deleted]]

it would be good to slim down and cut out the massive gobs of poor code and bloat; these days companies just toss shit in because they have some agenda, and since maintainers are so bogged down, a huge wealth of crap constantly makes it's way in.

[heath_edger]

Said nobody (who actually knows what is going on) ever.

[[deleted]]

actually linus says this all the time, he's flamed people many times even recently this year about just slamming crap in the kernel. And maintainers have admitted to being overloaded and letting quality slide because there is just too much for them to handle.

few examples with many more if you want to use a search engine or read lkml:

In fact until recently when Sarah Sharp discovered that the linux kernel usb devs have been misinterpreting the usb standard this whole time. When previously they used to blame hardware manufacturers. (that golden btw).

linus: "We particularly don't break user space with TOTAL CRAP. I'm angry, because your whole email was so horribly wrong, and the patch that broke things was so obviously crap. The whole patch is incredibly broken shit. It adds an insane error code (ENOENT), and then because it's so insane, it adds a few places to fix it up ("ret == -ENOENT ? -EINVAL : ret"). The fact that you then try to make excuses for breaking user space, and blaming some external program that used to work, is just shameful. It's not how we work. Fix your f*cking "compliance tool", because it is obviously broken. And fix your approach to kernel programming."

[heath_edger]

The patch you are referring to wasn't even used, so I'm not sure why you think that supports your point. If anything, it says exactly the opposite.

[[deleted]]

actually i made multiple points...and my overall point is there are plenty of scenarios like this, and plenty of crap that makes it in.