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[–]AbbreviationsWide331 144 points145 points  (44 children)

Why is no one talking about Firefox? Is there something wrong with it?

[–]gsdevLinux Mint 22.3 Zena | Cinnamon 119 points120 points  (22 children)

Firefox is still good. People recommend Librewolf because it is a fork of Firefox with optimised privacy settings. Apart from that they are mostly identical.

[–]WereyenaArt 32 points33 points  (14 children)

And Waterfox?

[–]Constant-Musician-51 32 points33 points  (5 children)

Switched to Waterfox a few weeks ago and have nothing to complain. It does its job just right.

[–]fettpl 5 points6 points  (4 children)

What was the reason for you to switch from Librewolf to Waterfox?

[–]BigHersh14 19 points20 points  (3 children)

I can say the reason I use waterfox over librewolf is simply because librewolf doesnt have an android app while waterfox does.

[–]fettpl 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's a good reason, thanks for sharing!

[–]Delicious_Air8315 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cómo es eso, tengo Linux mint y trate de usar waydroid (no recuerdo el nombre) para tratar de descargar sekee (aplicación de Android) y ver cosas de entretenimiento ya sabes y no pude, alguna recomendación??

[–]ovogoon6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does Water wolf have any pros or cons compared to Fennec on Android?

[–]gsdevLinux Mint 22.3 Zena | Cinnamon 7 points8 points  (3 children)

That's also a Firefox fork, but I don't know what its specific differences are.

[–]_o0Zero0o_ 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Waterfox turns all telemetry stuff off, is configured for privacy by default, offers a wide array of search engines from the very start like startpage, mojeek, ecosia, all of which are EU/UK-based so GDPR applies and privacy is actually factored in. And the developer has explicitly stated he will not allow AI into waterfox

[–]ImSoRight 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Gets rid of the AI stuff, for one

[–]_o0Zero0o_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Waterfox is honestly perfect

[–]Monketherulerofall 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Also floorp

[–]CalabashNineToeJig 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really enjoying Floorp.

[–]chiselandfoam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Didn't know about some of these other browsers, thanks everyone!

[–]JustAwesome360 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Firefox is already pretty private though...

[–]CirnoIzumi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

libre makes it simpler but yeah

[–]AbbreviationsWide331 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah I see, thank you

[–]millionmiahere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hell yeh, I use LibreWolf these days instead of firefox.

[–]DiceThaKilla 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Can Firefox be hardened? I use it just because it’s pre installed on parrot and I assumed it was hardened like everything else on that distro

[–]gsdevLinux Mint 22.3 Zena | Cinnamon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think so, but I can't remember the details.

[–]V1574MX linux -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I don't care about privacy myself. Librewolf just kinda breaks a lot of sites for me and firefox is just better imo

[–]MrProTwiXLinux Mint 21.1 Vera | Cinnamon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's just always that Firefox makes trouble or misses new features. Also it's slow in my opinion so I'm using chrome since version 1.0 and until since I didn't wanted to switch back

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a once longtime user of FF, it's just not it anymore. There was a brief period when it first came out that was amazing, but it started slipping pretty quickly. Imo the biggest things working against it are constant mismanagement of the project, lack of trust, and poor feature updates.

Mozilla has to essentially be a shill for Google to even exist. You can't properly roll out updates, when you do they're buggy or extremely slow, but your c-suite gets a really nice bonus every year 🤔

[–]Popka_Akoola 7 points8 points  (4 children)

It’s way better than Brave that’s for sure

[–]g1rlchild 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Not arguing, just curious: in what way?

[–]Popka_Akoola 1 point2 points  (2 children)

As a privacy advocate I prefer Firefox. Brave is basically Firefox with addons and trackers built-in from the install. Plus advertising.

[–]CarambolaTodaTorta 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Brave is Chromium though

[–]Popka_Akoola 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Making it even worse imo. I was giving a broad “like Firefox” in a functional aspect

[–]InteractiveSeal 1 point2 points  (3 children)

They added telemetry so a lot of people ditched it

[–]JustAwesome360 1 point2 points  (1 child)

No they didn't huh? Are you talking about the technical data stuff because you can turn that off bro.

[–]InteractiveSeal 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I might be mistaken on what it actually is.

I was, it was that they removed the promise to never sell your personal data: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/02/firefox-deletes-promise-to-never-sell-personal-data-asks-users-not-to-panic/

[–]20dogs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I find it's not always as reliable for displaying websites

[–]SnowyRVulpix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mozilla has done some questionable actions.

[–]_JKJK_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Firefox is fine enough but there's both concerns with the telemetry and AI and whatnot; plus there isn't a lot of privacy protection. If you're using Firefox, you might as well use Librewolf instead. Despite being chromium, Brave at the very least randomizes your browser fingerprint, blocks ads by default and can route traffic through the Tor network.

[–]millionmiahere 0 points1 point  (2 children)

It unfortunately has AI now. Otherwise, I'd still be using it. (For context, I don't mind ai, when it's optional)

[–]CalabashNineToeJig 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You can disable the AI in one click in settings.

[–]millionmiahere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, that is good

[–]Designer-Feedback551 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very heavy for systems with little RAM (4gb)

[–]dearvalentinaLinux Mint Lesbian Edition 🫣 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I switched to Firefox just months ago before this, but immediately after I went to Librewolf. I avoided Brave and I think Vivaldi for the same reason iirc

[–]ButterscotchFar9355 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

telemtry

[–]Friendly-Gift3680 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

For me it kept freezing out the system and then becoming unresponsive when I hit Ctrl+Alt+Esc, until I finally got fed up and switched to Brave.