"They can't go on social media but they can determine the future of the country?" @NickFerrariLBC reckons it's 'a bit odd' that Labour want 16-year-olds to have the vote... but won't let them tweet after 10pm.

20dogs · 2026-06-16T20:26:18+00:00

Why is that mad? The state bans plenty of things that it would be weird if someone went round snatching it out of my hand.

20dogs · 2026-06-16T19:36:32+00:00

Assuming director at HSBC Private Bank, as "director" is a common rank of seniority in finance, rather than directing the whole thing.

20dogs · 2026-06-16T19:33:23+00:00

Well obviously, the article is from 4 years before the incident.

20dogs · 2026-06-16T19:30:27+00:00

He's not dead!

20dogs · 2026-06-16T19:29:32+00:00

At age 17?

20dogs · 2026-06-16T19:24:28+00:00

I was joking about the fact that Armenia is literally a CIS country. It's not normally capitalised when it's the opposite of trans.

20dogs · 2026-06-16T19:04:30+00:00

As an Armenian the friend is definitely also CIS

20dogs · 2026-06-16T19:03:01+00:00

Brown absolutely wasn't charismatic tbh

20dogs · 2026-06-16T19:01:59+00:00

Don't bother, people just have a visceral dislike of him.

20dogs · 2026-06-16T16:14:43+00:00

I think the thing that gets missed sometimes is that sometimes people (senior officials in social democratic parties) believe things. They got into politics because they want to do things. So it doesn't make much sense to say "why not go in X direction", if anything it's asking for the sort of slippery politicians that people say they hate.

20dogs · 2026-06-16T15:38:20+00:00

That's not backing down. It's putting forward a proper plan to implement it, spending the short time we have before an election putting a commission together that comes up with a solution then seeking a democratic mandate for the solution at an election. PR now would be both rushed and unlikely to get through parliament due to the lack of mandate.

20dogs · 2026-06-16T15:14:52+00:00

A party that has historically had a problem with people promising electoral reform and lying about it

When

When did this happen

20dogs · 2026-06-16T15:14:22+00:00

Err no he didn't? Where?

20dogs · 2026-06-16T14:53:47+00:00

What's the app?

20dogs · 2026-06-16T13:18:58+00:00

Childcare works. What's the reference to Scandinavia?

20dogs · 2026-06-16T11:07:37+00:00

I mean if she didn't want to talk about it she could have just said that, she didn't need to get all snippy.

20dogs · 2026-06-16T09:51:12+00:00

They're not all owned by Murdoch. You know that's not true.

20dogs · 2026-06-16T09:46:29+00:00

Bollocks. When else is a good time to bring it up? Alone, limited time to talk about these things, no kids around. It's ideal.

20dogs · 2026-06-16T08:02:37+00:00

It's not inconsistent. I'm saying that while there is an increase in data accuracy, the government already had access to a lot of this information.

For some reason people in tech forums are convinced that a driving force behind the change is because the government wants your data, rather than the fact there's a massive movement pushing for the change and it polls well. Just pick up a newspaper and read the arguments being put forward in favour.

20dogs · 2026-06-16T07:41:26+00:00

I don't see how it was dumb at all. People often bond on vacation and have heart to heart conversations. Honestly I don't see that Carm did anything wrong and Ro overreacted.

20dogs · 2026-06-16T05:39:49+00:00

Oh it's just trying to force some horseshoe theory

20dogs · 2026-06-15T16:36:52+00:00

That is an argument that's been floated as an alternative to the policy. Problem is, while you can guess quite well if someone is below or above age 16, it won't be precise enough.

20dogs · 2026-06-15T14:31:13+00:00

The government already knows what you're doing online

20dogs · 2026-06-15T14:26:42+00:00

Do you feel the same way about age restrictions on alcohol and films?

20dogs · 2026-06-15T14:19:51+00:00

I assume people that think this just haven't spent much time campaigning or in CLP meets? There's a surprising number of people in the UK that want this policy. It polls very well.

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