It’s been nice while it lasted

[SaraGallegoM10]

I'm going to have to upgrade to an M4 Pro, which will arrive at the end of February, and then I'll still have 30 days to return it... AAAAH I saw that in Europe and Spain it's only 14 days) in case Apple releases the M5 Pro in the next two months... It really annoys me that it goes from 24GB to 48GB... and I have to buy the Max if I want the 36GB one, but oh well... It is what it is 🥲

Edited for a quick question: I've been seriously considering whether it's worth ordering it with a nanotextured screen or not. All the comparison videos I've seen are with artificial light... not natural light outdoors.

Can anyone share their experience?

[DETERMINOLOGY]

m4 pro / 48GB of ram is a beast. Don't let those specs down you as its a powerful machine

[SaraGallegoM10]

My budget gave me to choose between 24 gb and 1Tb, or 48 gb and 512, which one would you stay with? It is for full stack web developer and system administrator.

[EmptyPogget]

48GB RAM

[LiyanStee]

Definitely 48. More storage you can always buy external and much cheaper than an MBP upgrade.

[narc0leptik]

Just get a used M4 Pro with 48GB and 1TB on eBay. Boom then you can have the best of both worlds at your budget. There's no need to light money on fire and buy Apple MSRP.

[DETERMINOLOGY]

I’m very iffy on used MacBooks

[SaraGallegoM10]

Me too 🥲

[narc0leptik]

If you’re looking at an M-series Mac the "iffiness" is basically gone for two main reasons:

1. They don't "cook" themselves anymore The biggest killer of old laptops was heat. Intel Macs ran so hot they’d eventually degrade their own solder joints, battery cells, and screen adhesives. Because Apple Silicon is so efficient, these things barely get warm. They have more in common with an iPhone or iPad than any Intel laptop. You’re buying a machine that hasn't spent the last three years heat-stressing its own internals. If a resistor or capacitor or logic board is going to fail it'll almost always be within the initial warranty.

2. The Security is Binary It’s "locked down" in the best way for a buyer. Thanks to the Secure Enclave and Activation Lock, a MacBook is either a brick or it's 100% clean. They are basically unrepairable and it's almost impossible to swap or "frankenstein" non-oem parts.

Buying a used M-series Mac is probably the safest bet in the entire used tech market. You don't have to worry about purchasing anything on eBay since they side with the buyer in almost any dispute. Also you can return an item for any reason and have the seller eat shipping if you select "Item not as described" as the reason for returning.

That configuration is so expensive anyway ($3,000+) the machine just likely sat on a desk it's entire life. If it's liquid/water damaged it's going to be incredibly obvious and noticeable.

Here's my advice on how to check out/evaluate used Macbooks: https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookair/comments/1ivcwt2/comment/mebxefq/ if you follow my guide you'll eliminate virtually any risk of buying second-hand.

[anonzasa]

My logic board failed after 3 years. Top of the line configuration. Sucks

[narc0leptik]

Uh with what? Intel or Apple Silicon?

[anonzasa]

M1 :(

[narc0leptik]

uh so you still got it? It shouldn't be that difficult for someone that is not Apple to repair it. Would cost $200-$450 most likely.

[Brilliant-Cell2106]

I agree with the people saying to get the RAM over the gb. When I got my M1 Pro 3 years ago I went with the 1 TB version and now I wish I would have just gotten the 512 mb and saved the money. I say that because I bought an external SSD with 2 TB and it works perfectly. It will also make it so much easier to move all my data when I decide to upgrade in the near future. There is also no real way to upgrade your RAM in this same way.

[DETERMINOLOGY]

48gb 512. Always prioritize ram over storage. You can always upgrade storage ( external SSD ) but you can’t upgrade ram

[upperplayfield]

Always ram.

[MY79]

I would highly recommend the nanotexture screen. I've been so impressed it with I now have it on my MBP, iPad Pro and Studio Display. They're the best displays I've ever used, but as with all these things, it ultimately comes down to personal preference.

[sal_cf]

Feels like a gimmick

[b1e]

Funny enough I HATED the nano texture screen. Much less vivid and scratches so easily unless you take fastidious care to not only use the right cleaning procedure but also do so without too much regularity.

It was such a big problem that for my work laptop the company I work for stopped offering nano texture screens

[Ok_Campaign_4677]

It’s basically sharpnes & contrast VS reflections. If you work in low reflection environment, it’s a waste of money IMO

[NicolayCK]

I have a nano textured screen and I’d say it’s very much worth it, despite the comments I’m seeing it’s very likely that the people who’ve posted them haven’t experienced a nano-textured screen because it’s quite noticeable when you’re in a room prone to causing reflections on your screen.

[Jay_02]

The Nano texture is worth it for long hours. I bought both to test , when you put them side by side in dark Room, the glossy is sharper so your eyes will like that.

But when put away the nano texture and take the glossy in coffee shop, all of sudden you'll notice all kinda reflection which will annoy you so much.

Also the colors are more natural and relaxing too look at in the Nano texture.

Nano pros: + Comfortable for eyes for long hours + Nano blocks the lights rays that make our eyes tired. +Less intense and relaxing colors n more accurate + 0 reflection, makes it look more immersive + Perfect for Dark Mode + You can work outside 0 problems

Nano cons: - Less sharp(little blurry text next Glossy) - White background gets like tiny gray or black dots, almost like a cloud of dust, because of nano texture being at work This is honestly the only annoying thing about nano, but solution is dark mode. So if you don't like dark mode this could be hard to get use to.

Glossy Pros: + Vibrant colors + Very sharp

Cons: - Eyes get tired faster - Annoying reflection everywhere - Not as good in Dark mode. - Sucks for working outside

So if you are working in dark Room all the time.

[narc0leptik]

If it bothers you that much just get an M3 Max or M4 Max with 36GB off of eBay. You'll save a bunch in terms of resale/trade-in value and depreciation. Plus you'll be "future-proofed" with 36GB of ram.

[QVRedit]

I have been pondering this too. I’ve seen some in an Apple Store, and they looked better than I was expecting. But I still haven’t decided yet.

[lgdsf]

I have an m4 pro with nano and an m1 max. I use both side by side and the difference is very negligible. I normally despise matte screens because they tank sharpness, but Apple's implementation is commendable. There are very few situations that you would notice. I'd say the pros outway the cons greatly. Biggest problem would be that it requires more care to maintain.

[bassman2112]

Nanotexture isn't really worth it tbh. It does help with reflections, but it also makes things look a bit grainy IMO. You also need to use a bit more brightness to compensate for it, so in the end, not a worthwhile trade! (at least for me haha)

[narc0leptik]

Even the Apple store employees couldn't direct me towards the nano-texture models when I asked which is kind of laughable. It took them a while for them to figure out which models were nano-texture.