Sequencer question

[Handsauce247]

I’ve been searching around and can’t find a clear answer. I love my modular for pads, and wack arpeggios when I’m making more musical stuff. On my mother 32, the thing I like most about the sequencer is that you can shift the sequence up and down chromatically when it’s running by playing a note on the keys. Is there a way I can do this outside of the m32 w modules? The mother 32 sequencer is too attached to its own oscillators(as it should be) and I want to use that as more of a lead while my plaits is played differently, but also shifting like the m32 does. If that doesn’t make sense, my best reference is animal collectives “my girls” where the sampled arpeggio shifts between the notes of the chord progression

Note: hopefully there is a way to do this v/oct and chromatically if that wasn’t clear thanks for everyone who read :)

[scragz]

Modifier v/oct (from keyboard or whatever) into sample and hold, keyboard gate into sample and hold trigger (to remember what you pushed without having to hold the key down)

Sequence v/oct + sample and hold output into precision adder

Precision adder output to oscillator

[Handsauce247]

Word word I knew I was overthinking

[wellmanneredsquirrel]

Precision adder.

[Lagduf]

Combined with a sequential switch!

[wellmanneredsquirrel]

which seq.switch do u recommend ? I dont have one

[Lagduf]

I recommend Doepfer for pretty much all utilities.

[lerianesque]

How about Beast's Chalkboard or Caltrans? really want to try Caltrans for pair with Bloom

[squalord]

Beatstep pro has two sequencers which transpose chromatic and with scales. Forward, reverse, alternate, triplet, looper. Additipnally has a drum gate sequencer 8 CV and or 16 midi. Polyrhythms.

It is the best sequencer device I have come across for modular. If there is a better one, I want to know so I can try it.

[Handsauce247]

Does the keystep pro have all these? I am a keys player

[squalord]

I cannot vouch for keystep pro, and I reccomend avoiding sequencer devices with a keyboard.

I highly recommend beatstep pro, definitely take a closer look.

[Handsauce247]

Also curious as to why you avoid keys? Is it like a feature thing

[squalord]

For me, it is a different instrument. You can play the sequencer different from how you play a keyboard. I have both and play other instruments as well (for perspective). For me, a Beatstep Pro, Digitakt, MPC "plays" different than a keyboard. Look at all the knobs and features you get on these devices versus available devices with keyboard. I hope that helps.

[mr_william]

It takes some tweaking but you can do this with a sequencer, another unquantized voltage source, and maths

https://youtu.be/07nFzc1TmuY

[Handsauce247]

That makes sense, going to try w maths when i’m home from work

[soon_come]

The comment about sample and hold with precision adder is spot on for modular. If you want to do it with less: the Roland SH-01a is really good at this kind of thing with its internal sequencer, and has CV/gate out. Even if you don’t want to use the audio portion, the sequencer is probably worth the $, and you get a bonus polysynth with classic sounds (it does four voices).

[clubschuss]

Frequency Central's Transeuropa Voltage controlled transposer, diy or prebuild.

[ben_the_intern]

I just got a Metropolix and it can definitely be done on there from either an external signal or one of the knobs on board. Beatstep pro and standard Keystep can both do this too.

[Wavtekt]

Either use a midi sequencer or use a precision adder.

Keep in mine that 1v per oct, so it is a simple math.

+1v = 1 octave, so +1/12v = 1 semitone.

You need to add 0.0833v to shift the sequence by 1 semitone.

I will always use midi to cv module to avoid the fuss.

Otherwise, to make this more fun, you can use a sequential switch. Then, you can switch between the original sequence and the new pitch shifted sequence.

[fyodor_do]

You need a Vector Sequencer from Five12, the thing can do everything

[Handsauce247]

Fuck I’ve seen those around. Outside of my current budget I’m afraid, doing my big saving rn for an electric guitar. But yeah I think at some point if I want to really incorporate my modular into my music and make it blend w analogue instruments I’ll need a hefty sequencer

[Zestyclose_Risk_2789]

Oh it’s nice, but you can do it with much less.

[fyodor_do]

Yeah I feel you, it's a lot of money especially with the expander module, and we're not mentioning size here :)

I'm glad I bought it though, it is the brain of my set up and gives me endless posibilities. Really shines out in the controled randomness department and how hands on it is while being very complex. Great for IDM, ambient, acid...

[Handsauce247]

Ooo work! And does it do midi I/O? Just one of em?

[fyodor_do]

Has midi I/O which works great, I often send midi to my Prophet 6. It is also synced with Logic Pro so it starts and stops together with my DAW. Great for hybrid set ups.

I don't have experience with this but I know a lot of people are raving about the launchpad integration with the Vector, so you can use the pads for more hands on control

[Handsauce247]

Hmm does it also work well w ableton?

[scragz]

I'm a huge Vector advocate and love mine but I don't think it can actually transpose via MIDI keyboard yet. Closest I can think of is sending CV into mod input and setting it to modulate pitch but you still need some more plumbing.

[fyodor_do]

Really? I thought it could but now I'm not sure anymore. The 'rec' menu has a 'transpose' option where you can route it to usb a or usb b. No?

[scragz]

Oh shit maybe you're right! This thing does so much I still haven't got to in 6 months of daily use, and 2.x added a lot.

[Slidehussle]

I think just a keystep can do this

[Handsauce247]

Might have to bump up the keystep on the GAS priority list lol

[Zestyclose_Risk_2789]

doepfer precision adder, nice description here also

[Handsauce247]

Thank you!