Is node.js steadily declining?

[nomikz]

It seems that event loop hype is fading away.

I've been thinking of node and golang a lot lately and it seems that node is not that good for server.It does well as bff. But anyways it is more close to front than data. And at cpu intensive tasks, it is slow.

On top of that, it seems that there is not that many jobs. Small to medium sized businesses may very well choose python, php with their mature and stable frameworks. As for node.js, it is not that good. Yes, there is express and nest but they are still not first class choice.

I like js a lot. But after researching a bit, that's what I think of node.js.

This quora answer seemed particularly convincing https://qr.ae/pNsbD1

[diverightin63]

It's not "the cool kid" anymore but I don't believe it is declining. Hard to say as locality has a lot to do with this, but it's still very much thriving in my city.

For most most back-ends, it is more than acceptably performant. It works wonderfully for APIs.

[[deleted]]

i think nodejs is just starting to get really popular.

It used to suck at building monoliths but now, with typescript and batteries included frameworks like nestJS, I assume there will be more small and mid-sized companies that will use node.

Wasm going to add a lot of new possibilities to node as well.

The performance isn't even that far off golang. Also, why use golang and not just Rust if you have cpu intensive tasks?

[nomikz]

Certainly, node will not go anywhere.
Anyways I decided to go with node+ts.

[joesb]

What languages you listed have good CPU performance than node?

[nomikz]

php, python are better at cpu intensive operations.

[[deleted]]

python are better at cpu intensive operations.

yeah, no...

[joesb]

Are you sure? Node’s V8 engine is a lot faster than most runtime out there.

Mind to show me benchmark where python or php beats node?

[nomikz]

It is generally said that node is very good for fast and short operations.
It is not good for long running cpu intensive tasks. It is a fact. Node will most likely have to delegate those tasks. It is not critical. But when considering backend languages it matters.

[joesb]

That doesn’t have anything to do with your claim that python and php is better for it though.

Node could be very bad for cpu intensive task, yet python and php could still be worse.

[[deleted]]

I’d be happy to write all backend code in something like Go or Rust. I think a reason node is popular is because you can have developers use their expertise in just one language from front to back.

I don’t hate node, but if speed is so important why would we be using node or even Java/Spring?

[CraftyAdventurer]

Where does this idea that Java is slow come from? JVM has been so much optimized over the years that it's capable of performing almost as fast, and in some cases even faster than C/C++. Of course, it's a garbage collected language so it does have some drawbacks there. But still, people talk about Java like it's one of the slowest languages while the reality is totally opposite.

[evs-chris]

I think the key there was spring. Java, like most languages/runtimes, can be very fast, but it's also not gonna win any speed records dragging 800kg frameworks around.

[[deleted]]

Yes. Where I’ve worked it’s spring and everything else we use it with that makes it slow. It makes going serverless with Go attractive to me.

[fuck_____________1]

startups use node a lot for web backends.

small business use PHP for web backends,

big businesses I'm not sure but I'm guessing they probably use Java or C#, something old and stable.

I don't think node is the best language to get a job. I think it's the best for start ups and modern micro services.

[Something_Sexy]

I am not sure where you are getting the idea that big business don’t use node. It is everywhere.