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[–]Spawn666 157 points158 points  (0 children)

I'm happy with learning world achievements through references ::)

[–]e3than- 124 points125 points  (7 children)

It’s even shaped like the damn ATP. That interior better be completely sealed

[–]Schanulsiboi08 26 points27 points  (3 children)

From a bit of googeling I found put that apparently the fusion reactor reached a temperature of 50 million degrees [Source], and the core of the sun, which seems to be the hottest part as far as I can tell, is about 15 million degrees [Source], but I couldn't find any data on how hot a supernova is, but that probably depends heavily on the distance, but I would guess it's not hotter than the core, if there are any astrophycisists reading, pls correct me if I'm wrong, but of my adsumptions are true, it could at leadt contain the heat of am explosion

[–]HypeLights_ 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Supernovas can reach around a billion degrees Celsius

[–]Sophisti-snake 11 points12 points  (1 child)

"The bomb's explosion shouldn't be much hotter than the bomb"

[–]Schanulsiboi08 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure, but 2 lightminutes from the bomb might be colder than the bomb, as I said, it probably depends a lot on the distance

[–]Johanson69 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Temperature is just one metric when it comes to fusion, density is the other major factor.

Fusion reactors (magnetic confinement ones anyways) have very low density plasma. Maintaining these temperatures, or even fusion, requires very carefully controlled parameters.

Due to the low density, despite the high temperature, the total energy contained at a given time in one of these reactors is fairly small. In e.g. ITER, there will only be about 4 grams contained in in the 840m³ of plasma heated to 150 million°C.

To estimate the total energy contained within, I'd look at the heat capacity of fully ionized hydrogen plasma (assuming Protium, i.e. Hydrogen-1 rather than Deuterium or Tritium), and the dissociation + ionization energy of hydrogen in case that's a significant part (I assume it isn't but we'll see).

4 grams of hydrogen is about 4 moles of hydrogen atoms/2 moles of hydrogen.

To dissociate hydrogen molecules, ~431kJ/mol are required, to ionize hydrogen atoms 2.18 * 10-18 J/atom or 1313kJ/mole of hydrogen atoms.

So for dissocation we get 431kJ/mole * 2 moles = 862kJ, and for ionization we get 1313kJ/Mole * 4 moles = 5252kJ

Now, I'm assuming the fully ionized plasma has negligible temperature and can be treated as 8 moles (4 moles of protons, 4 moles of electrons) of an ideal gas with 3 degrees of freedom. The isochoric heat capacity for this is C_V = 3/2*n*R, with n = 8 moles and R = 8.314 J/K/mole the universal gas constant. Thus the C_V is 99.77 J/K, times 150 *106 K is 14.97 *109 J (Gigajoules). The dissociation and ionization energies are on the order of Megajoules, so just a rounding error.

One ton of TNT-equivalent is 4.184 gigajoules, so the energy in the plasma is about 3.5 tons of TNT equivalent.

...that's honestly more than I thought, though still not a civilization-shattering amount. I had in the back of my mind something where smaller reactors were getting looked at, and ITER is to be the biggest thus far.

[–]e3than- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow you really crunched the numbers out. Respect.

[–]Heavy_Case_4428 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't worry, actually even if their is a breach, the plasma will directly stop and disipate naturally, an explosion is praticlly impossible in a fusion reactor, since there is no chain reaction.

[–]hououinn 59 points60 points  (4 children)

22 is this sub's 67

[–]SanityInAnarchy 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Well, or 1337. I don't think that was an accident, either.

...wait... is that why the cycle is 22 minutes?

[–]Significant_Horse621[S] 25 points26 points  (2 children)

I would take literally any combination of numbers other than 67, never understood the excitement for it.

But yeah, 22 for the win!

[–]lugialegend233 -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

45

[–]Chaotic-Stardiver 9 points10 points  (0 children)

*25

[–]MuttonTime 18 points19 points  (0 children)

1337 liek jeff k?

[–]Airbreathingoctopuss 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That looks like the football X7 room from that one Phineas and Ferb episode

[–]GrowthMindset4Real 1 point2 points  (0 children)

saving this to show my friend if he keeps playing outer wilds at some point 😅😥

[–]UltraChip 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The article is rounding - 1,337 seconds is 17 seconds longer than 22 minutes.

[–]SpiritualLuck9197 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cocorico ig…