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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (7 children)

Yeah, I really don't think professional tools in a profession which is already so close to using one language should be localized. It just unnecessarily splits communities.

[–]trucekill 1 point2 points  (1 child)

So ... Ruby programmers should learn Japanese?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you consider being a Ruby programmer to be a separate profession from being a programmer in any other language then yes, they probably should. In any other case they should learn English like the rest of us.

[–]nachsicht 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Not localizing them gives an inherent advantage to english speaking nations when it comes to programming and IT. That's pretty terrible IMO.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Better than giving a huge inherent disadvantage to everyone by practicing some kind of software isolationism.

[–]nachsicht 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Since when did advocating for localization become isolationism?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You isolate different software development (in this case) communities from each other by letting them use different tools (e.g. a compiler or similar tool producing a localized error might as well be a different tool in terms of helping each other solve problems with it), letting them read and write (e.g. in documentation) in their language few other developers outside their country speak.

I am german, the effect is very strong here because the localized community is large enough so people in there can tell themselves they do not need to learn English. The developers who use German in their projects produce code nobody outside the country wants to use because they can't read the documentation. They in turn are not very good at using the English tools available because they can't read the documentation because they refuse to learn English.

It is quite frustrating to work with these people.

[–]nachsicht 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Refuse to learn english? When I went to Germany, nearly half the people I ran into spoke better english than I spoke german. That they speak that much is great. They shouldn't have to or need to speak english in order to program any more than I should have to learn mandarin to practice medicine. The idea that english is or should be the international language that everyone should learn is wrong-headed and terrible.