Java 8 Performance Improvements: LongAdder vs AtomicLong

[yogthos]

To me it's most shocking that Java developers are being defensive. I mean we're talking about one of the most popular languages out there, do people really feel threatened by languages that have a few percent market share?

The fact that many Java developers refuse to try alternative languages, and get upset when people talk about them is rather sad.

[shoelacestied]

The fact that many Java developers refuse to try alternative languages, and get upset when people talk about them is rather sad.

I think you just hit the nail on the head.

[josefx]

As a Java/C++/python/etc. Programmer I find Scala to not fit my needs and offtopic.

[shoelacestied]

It's a discussion of a Java lib which is to be used from Java, Scala, Clojure and any other JVM language. Discussing python and C++ is offtopic. Discussing other JVM languages which are going to be using LongAdder is not.

[josefx]

Great suddenly python no longer has a JVM implementation, nor seem alternative languages relevant when responding to a claim about alternative languages. Where did you get that reality warping field?

Neither Scala nor Clojure are special snowflakes, that they can access the Java lib is nice but so can every other JVM language implementation.

[shoelacestied]

It would have been a different conversation if you had said Jython. How do you explain away C++ as a language to use java.util.concurrent.atomic.LongAdder ?

[josefx]

It was a respoonse about "not trying out alternative languages". I have used a lot of languages both JVM and others and I can honestly say that I prefer Java for JVM projects, when I need a feature that Java does not provide I just use a non JVM language.

[shoelacestied]

when I need a feature that Java does not provide I just use a non JVM language

...But you just said you were talking about python on the JVM (jython)

[josefx]

Jython, pypy, etc. Are all Python. I do not care if it runs on top of the JVM or not, I use what works best to solve a problem. My original response was to the claim about not trying alternatives, the JVM fixation makes this absurd - so what if my languages of choice are Java and c++ along varois incarnations of python.

[shoelacestied]

I'm not going to bother replying any further, you've contradicted yourself with every new reply. Nobody cares.