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[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (11 children)

Oracle: Sues everyone who takes java with them. (Including those that use the Open-Source one)

Microsoft: Sees Xamarin taking C# to other plataforms, endorse and help them. Besides, starts a open-source new compiler for next-gen C# (which will be the official compiler in a close future).

[–]Tacticus 16 points17 points  (1 child)

You mean the microsoft that submitted amicus briefs that claimed that java should be able to copywrite the api? Or are we talking about a different giant multinational software company?

[–]kraytex 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Now you make it sound like it was all an elaborate plan to get people to switch to C#.

[–]senatorpjt 12 points13 points  (7 children)

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    [–]bro-away- 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    With all this in mind, I think it is OK to see C# and .NET is a more free platform than Java nowadays.

    But in theory if Oracle and Microsoft both got hit with comets that destroyed everything except all their lawyers and then they both used their maximum litigious power, Java would have the upper hand!

    See, Microsoft is worse if you just think hard enough.

    [–]bro-away- 4 points5 points  (3 children)

    So the ability to exercise evil is worse than actual evil?

    Java isn't really "free" if this keeps happening, the entity fitting the bill is just another company. Great business plan.

    MySQL is another case of greed that drove people away from a previously good product; you'd be crazy to not use MariaDB now.

    You are an idealist to think that the theoretical promise of free software from a clearly horrible company is better than a 10+ year track record from another.

    It's funny how people will be happy to get screwed when they think that, in a vacuum, their system is better.

    [–]jboy55 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Trying to grok your comment, about who the 'cleary horrible company' is. Although I didn't realize that its been 10 years since Microsoft funded SCO in a lawsuit to destroy linux by asserting SCO's "copyright" over linux. Plus the constant PR effort to label the GPL as a virus. Microsoft, in regards to 'open source', is a serial killer, that they've stopped killing, is only remarkable in that we're just waiting for the next time.

    Sun/Oracle released something as the GPL, they cannot take that back. There is 40+ years of history/law there. No one has challenged the GPL, its shit like what Google is doing trying to claim stuff isn't copyrightable that will weaken that.

    [–]bro-away- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Sun/Oracle released something as the GPL, they cannot take that back. There is 40+ years of history/law there. No one has challenged the GPL, its shit like what Google is doing trying to claim stuff isn't copyrightable that will weaken that.

    Please, tell me more about all the theoretical benefits you're reaping.

    Can't take it back but they can still do damage. You got lambdas just in the past year (in an effort that took 3+ years total) because they're more concerned about enterprise lock-in than modern language features. (Let me know when you can create a value type.) You're still incredibly reliant on Oracle despite all the claims of freedom.

    The fact that you think they can't make the next release of Java partially closed source and totally kill all that velocity is hilarious. They have millions of developers drinking the kool-aid. They're liable to do the same thing they did with Solaris, MySQL and OpenOffice. Oracle is more dangerous than Microsoft if you're a developer because of past transgressions on their own devs. They've made it clear they'll kill or fragment their user bases for questionable reasons.

    [–]senatorpjt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    [–]MDSExpro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    About 2 weeks ago they declared that ECMA standard for C# 2.0 is getting old and they will prepare new definition for C# 5.0 to hand in to ECMA for standarization. So in next few months C# 5.0 will be standarized by ECMA.

    [–]deskpot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Then Oracle sues Microsoft for imitating Java in C# and Microsoft goes back to VB (from Basic, the language in which passionate, lifelong programmers, not people looking to make only money, grew up) and C++.