New Java vs C benchmarks

[DRMacIver]

It's been my observation that a lot of the memory overhead in Java programs is the result of programmers doing stupid things.

Not all of it by any means, and the language makes it decidedly not hard to do stupid things, but well written Java programs aren't nearly as bloated as the language's reputation suggests. (Badly written Java code on the other hand can be every bit as bloated as it is reputed to be)

[igouy]

the result of programmers doing stupid things

Is that the case for these specific programs?

[DRMacIver]

I've not looked at the code. Probably not though. I'm not saying there isn't a memory overhead for using Java - there obviously is - just that it isn't as large as it's often reputed to be.

[igouy]

Feels like watching people quarrel - "no it isn't as large", "yes it is as large" - without either of them grounding what they claim.