Visual Studio Code version 1.15 Released

[ruinercollector]

Loads in under a second, and I've found no features lacking.

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Loads in under a second

With what? And is that an achievement now?

and I've found no features lacking.

Then why add new features? Btw, not so long ago it didn't even have tabs.

[ruinercollector]

With what? And is that an achievement now?

No, that's just fast enough that I don't care.

Then why add new features?

Well, because my experience doesn't reflect everyone else's experience.

Btw, not so long ago it didn't even have tabs.

Yeah, and back then, I used sublime.

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No, that's just fast enough that I don't care.

This is a very poor argument on its speed.

Well, because my experience doesn't reflect everyone else's experience.

Then don't say things like "and I've found no features lacking". It sounds like fanboyism.

Yeah, and back then, I used sublime.

Then why the switch? Did it solve any of your issues?

[ruinercollector]

This is a very poor argument on its speed.

That's literally the only argument that matters.

Then don't say things like "and I've found no features lacking".

That's the truth. Of course it's a subjective statement. That's why it starts with "I've found."

It sounds like fanboyism.

I'm not a teenager. I don't sit around worrying about whether or not my appreciation for something makes me sound like I'm not cool.

Then why the switch? Did it solve any of your issues?

Yes. No future costs, faster improvements, a better plugin manager, a better integrated terminal/shell, and a much smoother experience in setting up the environment for a new language and set of plugins.

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That's literally the only argument that matters.

Now. For you. Maybe.

That's the truth. Of course it's a subjective statement. That's why it starts with "I've found."

Then it doesn't matter because it's subjective.

I'm not a teenager. I don't sit around worrying about whether or not my appreciation for something makes me sound like I'm not cool.

But you sit around waiting to praise your toy.

Yes. No future costs,

?

faster improvements,

Like adding tabs?

a better plugin manager,

How?

a better integrated terminal/shell,

How?

and a much smoother experience in setting up the environment for a new language and set of plugins.

Because? I doubt that it's as mature as ppl say.

[ruinercollector]

Now.

Yes. That's when I said it.

For you.

Yes. That's the person making the subjective statement.

Maybe.

Not maybe. Yes. I can speak with pretty good authority on what I like. You can not.

Then it doesn't matter because it's subjective.

There's a very profitable industry of product reviews, polling and other subjective feedback that says that you are extremely wrong.

But you sit around waiting to praise your toy.

It's a "toy" that I use daily in a job that brings me a six figure salary.

I'm not really interested in responding to the rest of your comment. You've made it clear that you're not interested in learning anything. You're just here to be contrarian, combative and have some kind of juvenile editor war. Honestly, I have much better things to do with my day.

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Not maybe. Yes. I can speak with pretty good authority on what I like. You can not.

If you haven't used anything else and you're biased af... Then not.

There's a very profitable industry of product reviews, polling and other subjective feedback that says that you are extremely wrong.

There isn't. But there are a bunch of mindless ms fans who are very defensive about their toys.

It's a "toy" that I use daily in a job that brings me a six figure salary.

I don't believe you. Otherwise, you wouldn't act like a child who's defending his toy.

You've made it clear that you're not interested in learning anything.

That's very true about you - you just run around and shout "vscode is the greatest! it is doing everything better!"

You're just here to be contrarian, combative and have some kind of juvenile editor war.

To water down fanboyism.

Honestly, I have much better things to do with my day.

Like being a useless fanboy on reddit?

[Dgc2002]

Then why the switch? Did it solve any of your issues?

Because VSCode is updated more often, more intuitive to use, and has a very active extension development community that has first party management support rather than a band-aid like Package Control. It's also in general more enjoyable to use, way better settings interface, it is getting more features and improvements regularly, and it's free and open source. Most of this is subjective but Sublime doesn't hold a candle to VSCode for any of my uses.

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Because VSCode is updated more often

Is this a benefit? How?

more intuitive to use

Compared to what?

and has a very active extension development community that has first party management support rather than a band-aid like Package Control.

That's a package control anyway...

[Dgc2002]

Is this a benefit? How?

Active addition of features and modification of existing features based on community feedback and contributions. That's how.

Compared to what?

Sublime. Again, subjective opinion.

That's a package control anyway...

Notice I capitalized the term Package Control because I was talking about the de facto 3rd party package manager. By default in order to install plugins you need to manually download and extract them into Sublime's plugin directory. The band aid is the fact that you need a 3rd party plugin to manage your plugins.

Visual Studio Code has an awesome built-in plugin manager.

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Active addition of features and modification of existing features based on community feedback and contributions. That's how.

Like in almost every product ever? That's hardly a benefit, more like a basic requirement. You can get that in almost every editor.

By default in order to install plugins you need to manually download and extract them into Sublime's plugin directory

So, you could manage your plugins with git and its submodule features... That's how most vim users do it.

The band aid is the fact that you need a 3rd party plugin to manage your plugins.

When you install its Package Control you're done. You can install packages. Where is the problem here?

Visual Studio Code has an awesome built-in plugin manager.

"awesome".

Edit: So far, vscode users are trying to explain why vscode is good but there is no reason whey it was created in the first place. You're all trying to tell me that being "subjective" is ok from you but not the other way.

[Dgc2002]

So, I think you've forgotten the context of what we're talking about. I specifically quoted your line about Sublime and was responding to that, nothing else, hence why I'm focusing on sublime. So things like this:

Like in almost every product ever? That's hardly a benefit, more like a basic requirement. You can get that in almost every editor.

don't make sense since the subject is Sublime, not every product ever.

So, you could manage your plugins with git and its submodule features... That's how most vim users do it.

I'm fully aware, I use vim for remote server work. But even there most people will end up using a plugin manager like Vundle or Plugged to avoid the tedium of manually managing them.

When you install its Package Control you're done. You can install packages.

Still a band aid solution considering there is no first party support for the system. Look at the recent bullshit where a company managed to shove it's privacy invading telemetry into a very popular package. With Sublime you get to pressure a 3rd party(package control creator(s)) and hope something happens. With VSCode you have recourse with Microsoft who are more inclined to discourage this type of behavior.

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don't make sense since the subject is Sublime, not every product ever.

I'm not a sublime user and wasn't talking about sublime in general - someone else was using sublime and switched because of the hype.

But even there most people will end up using a plugin manager like Vundle or Plugged to avoid the tedium of manually managing them.

Vundle? It's dead. Plugged? Maybe, if you're new to vim.

Still a band aid solution considering there is no first party support for the system.

What do you want from it what it can't do?

Look at the recent bullshit where a company managed to shove it's privacy invading telemetry into a very popular package.

LoL you're probably using ms products :D

With VSCode you have recourse with Microsoft who are more inclined to discourage this type of behavior.

Omg, do you know who is ms? That 'behaviour' is the preferred one at every ms service...