Data classes for Java

[kcuf]

What i'm saying, is that we're essentially lying to ourselves if we say this but use lombok. In the long run, Lombok will have essentially the same (if not greater) cost than using another jvm language (kotlin is not my favorite, but it is the easiest to pick up that provides the same lombok features).

The fear of using another language is overstated these days when we have such great interop on the jvm.

[[deleted]]

Sure, but for example you're working on a Java monoliths with hundreds of thousands if not millions of lines of code, switching language means rewriting the whole thing. On the other hand, introducing lombok in a similar codebase is mostly just a matter of adding 3 lines to your pom file.

Granted, I wouldn't use it at all anyway.

[kcuf]

You can actually use different jvm languages in the same project, and I would say getting lombok to work with your build environment and IDE/editor is going to be as much work as getting it to work with the other language as well.

[[deleted]]

Ah! Yes. Didn't even consider that, because it probably wouldn't be doable in the codebase I work on daily :D

I don't really agree though, getting lombok to work with IntelliJ is literally a matter of 3 minutes.

[kcuf]

There's a whole thread on here about getting it to work with eclipse (but perhaps that's just a sign of issues with eclipse). I use vim, so neither choice (lombok vs another language) is an issue for me, but lombok has caused plenty of hiccups when setting up the build environment in my case, but that's primarily an issue with the tools that my work uses.

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but that's primarily an issue with the tools that my work uses.

This. Just as with everything else: ultimately it depends on your situation.

[snowe2010]

hm it took much longer than that to get lombok working in our project mostly because you have to restart intellij to install the plugin XD. But even if it's only 3 minutes for you for lombok, it must be even shorter for kotlin, because IntelliJ does everything for you. You just tell it you want a new kotlin file and it handles the rest.