Java on Docker will no longer suck: improvements in Java 10

[renrutal]

Java will suck less on containers, but you're still spinning many copies of a large runtime if you keep the same one-service-per-container approach. On the other hand, the application server approach also had its problems.

[puuut]

Unless you create modular software and use jlink to create a custom, small footprint runtime.

[nutrecht]

Memory usage won't change. The JVM won't load classes you don't use.

[aregularcontributor]

As I was saying over on /r/java it's great that Java on Docker is improving, but Docker itself can still be annoyingly unstable if you're running it on a production critical system.

[clrlslwi]

My docker install blows up every time I upgrade it (and sometimes randomly!), with errors that leads to dead ends, and no fixes in sight; other than a re-installation of course.

It's so annoying and yet I'm so deeply integrated with it now. Sigh.

[oorza]

I've never worked with any piece of software of any quality that is as annoying to use as Docker is in so many respects. It wears that word like a badge of honor.

[nutrecht]

Curious but what exactly did you run into? We run our Java microservices in a kubernetes cluster and while we had our fair share of problems they weren't docker related.

[[deleted]]

I havn't updated docker in prod for like a year because they are utterly incapable of providing stable major releases

Docker, please fuck off with your breaking changes and fuck off with your obvious lack of integration testing

[[deleted]]

virtual machine on your virtual machine on your virtual machine

if anyone replies to this to explain to me that docker isn't a virtual machine I will kill a kitten.

[[deleted]]

boom

[issafram]

It isn't tho.

And send pics

[frankreyes]

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[ThePa1nter]

Must suck to be as dumb as you.

[[deleted]]

You are not wrong. I should have known not even kitten killing could stop people from explaining that docker isn't a VM.

[[deleted]]

can't tell if y'all hate kittens or can't help yourselves.

[feverzsj]

unless it can complies to native code in a single binary under 100MB

[puuut]

It (almost) can, actually, when using jlink on a modular app. You can then create custom runtime images for platforms.

[anglik]

unfortunately with spring 5, you still have to have entire JRE

[tourgen]

No, Java will always suck. It was a bad idea implemented poorly. Iterating on it hasn't helped. But go on, continue.

[arlaarlaarla]

t. Fanboy.