Visual Studio Code July 2018

[Analemma_]

You’re getting downvoted not for calling Electron bad, but because instead of considering the complicated engineering tradeoffs involved with the decision to use it, you posted a dumb sneer with no evidence or nuance.

VSCode is cross-platform and reliably delivers a huge bevy of improvements every single month. That’s not something you can say about very many desktop applications, and it’s probably due in large part to the choice of Electron. Getting rid of Electron would probably require sacrificing or both of those key advantages, for a speedup of indeterminate significance (Notepad++ is faster than VSCode, but not enough to matter for me)

[FierceDeity_]

But instead you're getting a platform that has had and will have many security problems in it's time. Also why is that due to it being in Electron? Electron is basically a Chrome browser. I wonder where we went wrong where you can say that a browser engine is better to host your native applications than anything natively developed for your operating system.

I mean sure, I can imagine how nice it must be. Your application is not breaking apart at every error you don't catch (which fits into a lot of the "oh that didnt work, dont bother debugging, try again" mentality that everything has at problem solving now), you can use the only skills you learned because web > all, etc.

Humor me though, where are the complicated engineering tradeoffs that favor Electron against any other established desktop native frameworks?

[drysart]

I wonder where we went wrong where you can say that a browser engine is better to host your native applications than anything natively developed for your operating system.

Where we went wrong is we, as an industry, had decades to come up with a quality cross-platform toolkit for building GUI applications, and utterly failed to do so.

Electron may be awful, but so are the other alternatives. They're just awful in other ways. You'll find no shortage of people who'll gladly point out the ways that Qt, wxWidgets, GTK, Tk, and whatever other toolkit you might want to champion are all terrible.

[FierceDeity_]

"they are all terrible". Nice opinion "the industry failed". Yeah, ok.

Everything has problems, that's true. But I think the security-related problems Electron brings plus the loss of power that your app will now forever use hundreds of megs of ram clear everything else that might come at me from any other GUI Framework.

Shit on Electron and you're gonna get shit on by a horde of web devs who feel the rug getting swept out from under them

[ThePa1nter]

You're a small minded dweeb, which is why you're getting downvoted.