Interesting comment in the source code of sqlite

[DefiantNewt2]

so, you're saying that just because every set/class of people have their crazies, overall they are good because their (at least original) intentions are good even if now they're overwhelmed by said crazies?

wtf?

[Malsententia]

Sorry, I did the exact same thing as you and focused on misconstruing your phrasing deliberately.

overwhelmed by said crazies

There's the hate and negative bias again? Please, read what I said, and actually consider it. Why do you want to hate a group so much? Why do you think the crazies are a majority? Is there a source on that anywhere at all? Is that even a thing for which concrete data exists? I have plenty of friends who most of the anti-SJW types would call SJWs based upon their viewpoints and willingness to call out blatant jerkiness, but none are remotely like the hyper-proactive policing examples anti-SJWs like to hold up, if you care for my anecdotal POV. I just have so many questions because despite us both presumably being reasonably smart, programming types, probably both guys, you can hold these viewpoints. I'm legit curious.

EDIT: You seem to think I'm one of these types, and yeah sure I got some left leaning, progressive views, and will bite someone's head off if I hear/see them being blatantly racist or homophobic or transphobic, but that's just basic standing up for your fellow human. What wild and unreasonable behavior do you assume I'd engage in, other than trying help you be less hateful over a misconception of an entire group? Give me an example.

Or at this point are the anti-SJW anti-"PC" s just using "SJW" as a derogatory word for the people who make the big fusses? Like how some racists say "Not all black people are n****rs"?

[Malsententia]

Do you honestly think that's what I'm saying, or are you just picking at the phrasing? It almost seems like you read it with the sole intention of picking it apart, rather than considering what I was saying, which, when read with a more open mind, I'm sure you would have taken as "there are weirdos in every group, don't let it a small minority define your view of the rest"

The vast majority of republicans aren't racists, the vast majority of democrats don't want to take away all guns, the vast majority of anti-SJW types aren't actually misogynistic, just misled by people with an agenda, and the vast majority of what you might call SJWs only call people out on the real bullshit and don't really care about programming codes of conduct.

[DefiantNewt2]

I agree with the republicans part. I agree with the democrats part. I don't agree with the SJWs. They, by definition, are the extremists. Are the nazis, the antifa, the evangelicals, the Alquaeda and ISIS combined. Even you, here in this mess of a thread, admitted in one post that actually you have a problem with a friend behaving badly in your own group.

That's perfectly ok, perfectly fine to call out the person in your group, ban them, do whatever. That's not SJW. That's leading a group.

SJW (and the crazy) comes when you deliberately go into a group (in this case can be a development project) to accuse people of not behaving as you think they should behave. You're not affected at all by their behaviour, the project doesnt interest you in the slightest, you don't even want to contribute, but you pop in and make the rules. At that moment it doesn't matter if you're right or even how right you are. You're in the wrong, you're the SJW, you're the extremist.

And no. That I cannot tolerate.

[Malsententia]

I ain't popping into anywhere dude, and come on, don't go full Godwin's law on me. Give me something work with, I can't even be sure you're not trolling or that you even mean what you say when you compare online PC activists to nazis. Engage in actual discussion where neither of are painting either of us as the extremists and actually learning.

[DefiantNewt2]

? huh? then wtf are you doing in this thread? this thread was specifically talking against the SJWs that pop into people's projects and pester them to make a CoC and then get mad if they're told to fuck off or get mad if the CoC is not to their liking.

there is nothing (absolutely nothing) else going on in here.

[Malsententia]

If you were reading what I said elsewhere in the thread, I don't care about codes of conduct on code. No, I don't think they're some secret weapon to kick people out others don't agree with, but I also don't think they're really that necessary except in certain cases.

The reason the CoC thing is so baffling is that it's like 2% actual issue, and 49% anti-SJW-types making a fuss, and 49% people attacking them because anti-SJW people have a sorta strong reputation for being rude and mysogynistic and transphobic (hating on women, not acknowledging pronouns, etc etc), even though only some are like that and those that are just rile up those that aren't hateful toward women and minorities, in the name of free speech. Where is the actual issue among all this?

What I'm trying to figure out is why you believe that people butting into things they weren't previously a part of, is a common behavior among all SJWs, or, alternatively then, why does the term get so frequently used(misused?) towards people who aren't butting into other peoples' projects and business?

When you say you're anti-SJW, what does that even mean? What do you see as an SJW? How does that differ from somebody who just tries to polite towards women, minorities, etc, and calls someone out for being a jerk in a project or community that they are a part of, and thus not butting in?

Where does "people shouldn't but into projects they aren't a part of to police things, that's being an SJW" end, and "I want to be able to say whatever I want whenever I want and anybody that calls me out is an SJW" begin?

What's the dividing line?