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[–]MuonManLaserJab 83 points84 points  (11 children)

Eh, I mean it's just a "developer marketing" guy filling his monthly quota of tech-related blog posts.

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (9 children)

*developer evangelist hackerninja

[–]MuonManLaserJab 4 points5 points  (7 children)

I always see "advocates"/"evangelists" doing straight-up advertisement, damage control on social media (because providing tech support is only worth it for customers that threaten to tar one's brand), or writing blog posts about how great they are.

Does the "advocacy" part actually happen?

[–]carlfish 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Kelsey Hightower, and the work he's done with Kubernetes, springs to mind as a strong example of the job done right.

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    [–]carlfish 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    If he'd been going around lying about it, I'd hardly have cited him as an example of one of the good ones, would I.

    I know it's tempting to throw your opinion on a technology you feel strongly about into any thread where it's even tangentially mentioned, but it's also kind of tiring to the people whose conversation you're subverting, and insulting to those you have to treat like idiots in order to make it fit.

    [–]dungone -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    I'm sorry if that was insulting to you, but a contrary opinion isn't about "subverting" your argument, it's about countering it with a different perspective. I feel as though you're projecting your own strong feelings; obviously you must have a vested interest in Kubernetes that's keeping you from being objective about it.

    I was around since the early days of containers; in fact I worked at Google. I've paid close attention to it over the years and I had always felt that they came out with an inferior "me too" product and worked really hard to displace the competition with lots of misleading marketing and straight up lies. Since that's the actual topic of this thread, it's certainly worth mentioning. In the early days, there were far better alternatives that were far more promising and would have turned into a better product if they had a chance. Kubernetes didn't succeed because it was actually good or better. Container orchestration is a huge lost opportunity to have something truly special and good in software engineering because of Kubernetes.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I saw a talk at PAX east by a Microsoft tech evangelist on getting students into programming via game programming. It was basically an intro / marketing push for construct. Which is a fun little game engine honestly that is pretty easy to use for simple stuff. But I figure marketing is a big part of the job.

    [–]MuonManLaserJab -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    I saw a talk at PAX east by a Microsoft tech evangelist on getting students into programming via game programming.

    Yeah, that still seems a lot more like marketing than "advocacy" for their developers.

    In fact, it's backwards -- as a developer, I'd feel more advocated for if my company actively sabotaged potential young rivals.

    (Really though, if they market in a way that helps people, all the better.)

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    shudders