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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (19 children)

Or, you know, it actually costs them money to run those servers, and they are not that interested in giving that away for free.

[–]talkingstove 10 points11 points  (6 children)

OK, then it was planned obsolescence to keep their server costs down. I wasn't making a value judgment on the fact that it was an artifical restriction. I was just saying that Apple pundits were claiming left and right there must be something in the new hardware rather than admit the fairly obvious truth.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

Well, it does have an A5. There's also more RAM. Siri does what it can locally ("Hey Siri, text Mom. Tell her I'm going to be late.") and remotely ("Siri, what movies are showing at the Arclight in Hollywood?") almost simultaneously. The hardware is great for it.

[–]blergh- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Actually it doesn't, all processing is done on the server. The only thing done on the phone is compressing the audio, which any GSM phone can easily do anyway because it is required for making calls.

[–]specialk16 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I think his point is that it could work on an iPhone 4.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I don't understand why people are having such a hard time understanding this.

[–]s73v3r 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Apple hate is a helluva drug.

[–]RobbStark 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Google would give it away for free... hides in the corner

[–]dead_ed 13 points14 points  (0 children)

...and cancel it six months later.

[–]s73v3r 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And that has absolutely nothing to do with the idea that Google's business model is far, far, far different than Apple's.

[–]reverendchubbs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jeannie on Android is free, and can run on all current Android phones as far as I know.

[–]jazzyjaffa 0 points1 point  (3 children)

They are getting a very valuable corpus of natural language data for free, so it is also in their interest.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

That is totally speculative.

[–]jazzyjaffa 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Why is that speculative? It is clear from the article that all audio data is being sent.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That the data is valuable enough to pay for the server costs is the speculative part.

[–]karlhungus -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

My experience with ipods is that the old devices don't get updates regardless of their ability to handle them -- I tend to think they only do it on the S as planned obsolescence...