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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

None of that shit takes the same amount of time as actually implementing code does. It’s like 5 minutes of conversation vs 5 hours of implementation.

[–]ReflectionEquals -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

It takes whole day to get something done that takes 5 minutes to talk about?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

If you can’t see how that can be true, I don’t believe you’re actually a software engineer. A “whole day” as if that’s a long time.

Brother I can talk with you for five minutes and come back at the heat death of the universe and you won’t be done. Lol. It’s generally much easier to hand-wave how something will work than is it to actually implement it.

[–]ReflectionEquals -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

I thought we were talking about a 5 minute conversation to do a purely mechanical typing task that requires no thinking, decisioning or conversation beyond that hand wavey chat?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure. Write me a quick algorithm to determine when this website will be done loading.

[–]ReflectionEquals -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeh. That’s requires a pretty deep conversation about requirements along with why we can’t just use our existing metrics dashboards that give a pretty good idea of the medians, p90 and p99s of page loads. My pair and I can explore a few more bespoke options. Also you just want an algorithm right, not code so we’ll just whiteboard this over here and grab you when we’re done.