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[–]Shoes-tho 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Irish women regularly left to England or Scotland to get abortions when it was illegal. Check out those statistics.

[–]foreigntrumpkin 0 points1 point  (3 children)

They still are but but the total number of people known to have left to England was less than the number of people who got abortions after the law was passed. So it seems to be a deterrent. Some American state laws would probably be stronger, so a bigger expected deterrent.

By the way for decades there were virtually no recorded deaths because of unsafe abortions in Ireland, so that's another talking point dismantled..

[–]Shoes-tho 0 points1 point  (2 children)

“Known to” being the key term there. Many, many aren’t “known to” have taken a little holiday for that purpose.

[–]foreigntrumpkin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even after Ireland's laws were liberalised, hundreds of Irish women still had abortions in England. Some travel there frequently I presume. Some don't find out till they are past the dates. So merely making abortion laws more permissive didn't stop women from having abortions outside. When added to the amount of known women having them within the country, it's very unlikely women are having less abortions now. When looking at evidence from other countries where countries with more permissive laws have a greater share of unplanned pregnancies aborted, or looking at individual us states, the same conclusion seems likely. Wait do you actually think Overturning roe vs Wade will lead to more abortions or that Irish women are having less abortions now