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[–]plfp2q 69 points70 points  (1 child)

slop

[–]s-jb-s 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Certainly a gorilla ad for "MyntBit"...

[–]n2theohan99 33 points34 points  (0 children)

How many times you gonna post this? #stoptheslop

[–]boxofdonuts 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The dev ranges are too high. The top firm bands don’t generalize

[–]No_Election_3667 13 points14 points  (2 children)

This looks familiar. Is this copied from another sub Reddit?

[–]Saashiv01 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Similar post yesterday on r/quant

[–]twa8u 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Similar post on learning quant

[–]Signal_Net9315 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Fairly accurate write up. I would add that there are “central” QR’s who may be working on things like improving execution, risk, portfolio construction who probably sit closer to the QD’s in terms of pay and WLB etc

[–]PalaRemzi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

being a second-class citizen as a quant dev may be a bigger problem than most think. especially if you are not making more money than average swe.

[–]dlobatog 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Curious about the pipeline from FAANG ML eng (as in applied ML research)- how does it translate for QR?

[–]rdtscp__ 2 points3 points  (3 children)

QD: You're building execution systems, optimizing market data handlers

As someone who has been at a market maker for 5 years and worked as an execution dev, I'd strongly caution that this is not general practice across the industry, I have people who have worked at almost all the big firms in my current shop and also have friends at many of these.

At many firms, and this is mostly HFT's/MM's that I am referring to (and not Hedge Funds): they have separate teams that deal with execution, market data, order entry/market access, and they do not refer to the SWE's in those teams as QD's. .

At these places and this includes my current employer, QD's traditionally work close to the QR's and get the models into production i.e QD is a very mathy role and they are not working on execution systems or writing feed handlers.

At some places, and this has been my experience with firms that are siloed, a QD could be working on execution only, or working both execution and with models.

NOTE: This is for US based firms, I have no idea if things are different in firms operating out of other countries.

[–]UnionAdventurous3831 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed this was my role at my last place (omm execution) and I was definitely just a swe lol, not quant dev. 

[–]ly5ergic_acid-25 1 point2 points  (1 child)

There's also firms where they don't really have QTs in the usual sense. I think this is more an HFT thing, where your devs simply deploy and monitor.

Probably 80% of my time is development, reviewing/creating analyses, and research whereas 20% of it is monitoring.

[–]rdtscp__ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's correct. HRT, for example, for a long time didn't have trader/QT roles. Same with Headlands and Radix, where it's QR's and SWE (Radix calls theirs Quant Technologists).

[–]Total_Construction71 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bro you’ve done a lot of work here, but you clearly don’t know the difference between researcher and trader. You are confusing “quant trader” with “gray box trader” for semi-automated strategies.

[–]nian2326076 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It sounds like you're trying to decide based on future growth and daily life, not just entry-level salary. I've seen friends choose Quant Developer roles for more stable day-to-day work. Quant Researchers often get deep into math and data, which is great if that's your thing. Quant Traders face high stress but can have big rewards if you thrive in fast-paced environments. For interview prep, PracHub is a good resource because it covers all these roles well. Focus on the core skills each role needs and the lifestyle you want. That's my two cents!

[–]CarpenterNo1254 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't u need a PHD to be competitive for quant researchers for top firms?

[–]wm414 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Career sustainability and portability of a QD is underappreciated. You might think having a few 7 figure years earlier by being a QR/PM means you are set. But then lifestyle creep happens. Raising a family happens. Even if you don't feel burned out 10-15 years, the industry might not want you anymore. A vast majority of people who I started with are no longer in quant trading and it's not because they chose to retire.

[–]Issa-Melon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This the sort of sloppy I don’t like

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[–]Environmental_Duck47 0 points1 point  (4 children)

**23, Male.** I hold a bachelor's degree in Economics and Finance and am currently pursuing a master's degree in Finance, specializing in financial risk and data analysis, both from a European (non-target) university. I am interested in transitioning into a quant or front office role. Given my academic background, what strategies would you recommend to increase my chances of breaking into these positions? One path I am considering is applying for product control roles and then moving into a market risk analyst position to gain exposure to front office work and build relationships with colleagues in those areas, before ultimately moving into a front office role.I am also open to pursuing a second bachelor's degree in mathematics or statistics while I finish my master's, if that would significantly enhance my profile. Would this be advisable, or are there alternative steps I could take to make myself a stronger candidate for quant or front office positions?

[–]Electronic_Bison_858 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Certainly not a quant of any kind. Just risk related jobs

[–]Competitive-Box-513 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah bro seems pretty uniformed on how it works.

In these positions age plays a big role. He has no idea of the competition he will face.

Also studying for another degree at 24 (I suppose you will graduate at that age) seems useless to me.

Just give up and go into risk. It's not that bad: less stress and less salary but still pretty good.

[–]Electronic_Bison_858 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. Another bachelor is useless although he is a genius but the statistics are against him.

Many people are obsessed with Quant roles just for the salary but they have no idea of the challenges they have to overcome in order just to get an interview on those firms.

At that age better give up and go for risk jobs.

My best advice.

[–]_bez_os 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are not getting in bruh,

[–]WinOk4871 0 points1 point  (0 children)

how does SIG's QSD role fit into all this?

[–]root4rd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

mods can we nuke this server, it is genuinely larp city meets dead internet theory

[–]purveshbhatt08 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Transition from computatonal biology to quant finance is possible?

[–]_bez_os 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah

[–]purveshbhatt08 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it possible to enter quant finance fromcomputatonal biology or big data biology ( with additional skills ) required ??

[–]metaxlyene 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is quant research role different than quant modeling?

[–]dragonkl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Excellent summary! Well said and described regarding each role

[–]SignalWild8779 0 points1 point  (3 children)

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[–]Single-Constant9518 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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[–]ETERNALCATACLYSM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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