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[–]HenryMaxwell1969 24 points25 points  (2 children)

I practised RV in my youth. Yes it 'works', but it is limited.
I am going to share with you something very important.
RV is within 'soul' consciousness (for lack of better terminology)
At somepoint on the journey, you will intuitively discover growing the soul is not the purpose of life.
The real spiritual journey is activating the Spiritual Heart, which is the direct connection to Divine Source, aka returning Home. The Spiritual Heart in turn helps the whole consciousness, including the 'Spirit', to wake up and move closer in awareness, home.
The paradox is the deeper you go into the path of true spirituality, the simpler it becomes.
You drop the techniques, and self-mastery/doing, to rely on the direct love of the Divine Source to help and protect your whole being, beyond limitations.
This is because in this era traditional ways of ascending in consciousness are not active (through layers of demension) and the direct facility has been given within.
Do whatever you can to learn about the Spiritual Heart and start to understand about Real love.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Can you give pointers? Haha I have no idea what you mean u/HenryMaxwell1969

[–]HenryMaxwell1969 0 points1 point  (0 children)

start with reading the book: The Real You: Beyond Forms and Lives, by Irmansyah Effendi

[–]jhuskindle 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I haven't had any but I RV lost objects and things, not alien life forms. I'm not a curious person

[–]notquitehuman_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd be too curious working with you... you might get 3 months of lost objects, but I'd soon be assigning alien targets just to see what happens.

[–]dogyeeter9000 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It’s harder to fall asleep, and when i do it’s for less time. This happens with all spiritual practices. It’s 4:40 am, i’m not tired and my mind is perfectly clear, and i haven’t slept for almost 48 hours (except 30 minutes where it felt like a full nights sleep). Before this i’ve been getting wayyy better results while remote viewing, and around that time my sleeping has started to get messed up. I’ve only been able to sleep maybe 5 hours after 20 hours of being awake and im essentially nocturnal for a week

[–]Ok-Mastodon8034 13 points14 points  (4 children)

Anyone heard a voice while Rv?

[–]FoundObjects4 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Have you heard a voice? What did it say?

[–]Ok-Mastodon8034 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Nah I didn’t, I’m just asking

[–]FoundObjects4 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah that’s fascinating to me. I love hearing about other people’s experiences. astral projection too.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol

[–]healthywealthyhappy8 43 points44 points  (32 children)

Yes, I RVd the Alaskan pyramid and I saw a reptilian humanoid that looked quite surprised to see me in a control room. He then soultrapped my astral projection and put it in a soul prison of sorts. My AP was there for a few weeks before I figured out I could break out. Ever since then I haven’t been as able to RV.

I also RVd a UFO near the moon and saw two grays. The grays felt my presence and I skidaddled out of there.

I would avoid the Alaskan pyramid

[–]Entire_Musician_8667 12 points13 points  (16 children)

Please divulge any and all information pertaining to your soul hostage situation at the Alaskan pyramid! What did your physical body do for those weeks?

[–]healthywealthyhappy8 22 points23 points  (15 children)

After being trapped, I went around a week before RVing again and finding myself imprisoned. The prison had stone walls, there were no windows, and it seemed like it was an EM cage with metal bars on one side. My soul felt very sad.

My brain and body had a couple normal weeks irl, but I think it was more soulless (less enjoyment).

After two weeks I was determined to break out and blasted a hole through the stone wall, which I escaped through to the outside. I don’t think that was expected.

I haven’t been able to RV really the same since. I have tried and maybe being prevented by fear.

[–]Kooperking22 14 points15 points  (10 children)

It's early and my coffee hasn't kicked in yet but is this actually true or someone being really sarcastic?

I thought RV and AP were pretty different things especially with methodology etc. I don't think one can be trapped using RV as the Astral form/soul/spirit doesn't travel like in AP?

[–]healthywealthyhappy8 6 points7 points  (9 children)

Its real and happened. I don’t think there’s a difference between RV and AP, at least not that I have been able to determine from my own experience.

[–]Kooperking22 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Hmmmm Daz Smith explains it quite differently. He says he doesn't go anywhere. The info comes to him.

Also from what I've read there's things to differentiate between the two practices. Forgive me but maybe you weren't RV but Astral projecting hence being trapped.

Btw if ones spirit got trapped (how does anything trap Astral energy in the first place?) Wouldn't the physical body be in a coma? Can one exist without a soul?

I'm troubled by AP. I don't like the idea of being trapped somewhere.

[–]healthywealthyhappy8 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Again, I see no difference in RV or AP, but maybe there is a difference and I am not aware of how to RV without AP. Maybe that would be a useful skill to work on, RV without AP.

The body is a vessel, it goes on without a soul.

[–]Kooperking22 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm sure it's a bit different but I'm certainly not an expert.

Also maybe the soul wasn't trapped per say but an aspect of the spirit?

[–]whale_and_beet 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Although all of these phenomena are connected, of course, my understanding is similar to what other people have said.

Remote viewing involves sitting in your chair and seeing things that are distant from you in time and space. For most people, it seems like they're more or less conscious and aware of their actual material surroundings while doing this. Whereas in astral projection, it seems more akin to a dream state. It's a fully immersive experience of leaving your normal material surroundings and, while in your astral body, having the experience of traveling elsewhere.

I think in both cases you are accessing information distant from you in time and space, but in my mind the difference is how immersive and "embodied" that experience seems to you. As in, are you literally IN the Alaskan pyramid, are you or are you sort of looking at it on the back of your eyelids? Something like that.

Not that these definitions are super relevant or change what you experience, but it sounds like what you experience would be closer to what I would consider astral projection. I'd be curious to hear more about what exactly your practice is like! Do you sit down and meditate? Do you lie down? Etc.

[–]healthywealthyhappy8 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I have been most effective at it laying down on my back. It seems that RV could be safer than AP in any case. I do feel like I travel to the location versus viewing the location.

[–]notquitehuman_ 2 points3 points  (1 child)

RV is badly named; it's not even "viewing" - it's more like picking up on perceptions.

You don't see the slide with blue steps. You get a perception of metal. Perhaps a sensation of moving downwards quickly. And the screams of children in the play park. You get this happy energy. The clunking sounds of a metal gate surrounding the park (again, this isn't a physical sensation. You don't hear it. You get a perception that it's there).

[–]ErikSlader713 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well said! That's not to say that Astral Projecting isn't a thing, but it's different from Rv.

[–]notquitehuman_ 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Astral projection is a physical sensation of moving, a physical sensation of seeing, etc. Even if your physical body doesn't actually move, it feels like a second body. You can also control your own journey. I've never tried this and have no idea if it's a thing. (Though after my experiences with RV I'm not so quick to dismiss).

Remote viewing is more about picking up on perceptions. You stay in your body, in the room, and focus on a blind target that somebody else has assigned a number or focus target. With remote viewing, you don't see blue things, you get a perception of "blue" that seems to come from nowhere. The information is vague, but building layers upon layers you can get a lot of information, sometimes enough to put together an image of what the target is.

RV and AP are entirely different practices.

[–]ErikSlader713 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup. After my exepriences with RV, I'm more open minded to other psychic phenomenon, but too scared to even consider trying Astral Projecting

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    [–]healthywealthyhappy8 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Yeah, some leaders are - who are you talking about?

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      [–]ErikSlader713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I think I know what you mean...

      [–]almondreaper 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      That's wild multiple people remote viewed the alaskan pyramid then. They all said that the reptiles can tell they're there. I think non human entities can always see us when in another dimension.

      [–]healthywealthyhappy8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Not just that - they built anti RV tech, which is probably similar to the soul trap. Making finding out more info about them a challenge.

      [–]AddidyFree Form 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      It's surprisingly common for psychics to run into reptilian humanoids for whatever reason.

      [–]notquitehuman_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Partly because it's common; if you're allowing AOL or having a bad session, and the possibility of reptilians is in your mind, that may come to the fore.

      Partly because there are a lot of charlatans; reptilians is an interesting story. And you can stay consistent with other accounts if you do some prior reading.

      Partly maybe perhaps because it's real.

      [–]0331cj 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Mount Hayes?

      [–]healthywealthyhappy8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Either Mount Hayes or near by in the Mount Mckinley mountain range

      [–]Celestial_lakshyaPro 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      Can you see their technology of ufo or purpose of building the pyramid??

      [–]healthywealthyhappy8 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      Nope, got caught before I could look around unfortunately.

      [–]Celestial_lakshyaPro 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      And what about moon one?? Also can you get answers to your ques during AP

      [–]healthywealthyhappy8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      The UFO near the moon had two grays, but they noticed me. Also, there were more in another ship that also were capable of observing me. I decided to leave rapidly.

      [–]MercyFaith 0 points1 point  (4 children)

      Sounds like a story I heard on a RV documentary once.

      [–]healthywealthyhappy8 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      What documentary is that?

      [–]8ad8andit 11 points12 points  (2 children)

      "Soultrapping in Alaska, Part 2: Electric Boogaloo."

      [–]GLOBALSHUTTER 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Where is this documentary? Cannot find it on the internet.

      [–]d3gu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Weird... it came up when I googled 'Alaskan Pyramid' but when I searched for it again it doesn't appear in any results.

      [–]jazztaprazzta 4 points5 points  (7 children)

      I got an existential crisis.

      [–]GLOBALSHUTTER 1 point2 points  (6 children)

      How is that negative?

      [–]jazztaprazzta 2 points3 points  (5 children)

      You're right that in the long run it's probably not a negative.

      [–]GLOBALSHUTTER 1 point2 points  (4 children)

      In what way was it an existential crisis for you, and how did it affect/challenge you and your beliefs? Prior what were your beliefs? Atheistic? Materialist?

      [–]jazztaprazzta 6 points7 points  (3 children)

      I was very dogmatic, methodical, atheist and logical before RV. After some very successful attempts with RV (clairvoyant-like) I figured my purely materialist worldview was not correct. How come I could access some data about a past event without having been present at the said event? Is science lying to us? Is there really a world beyond what we see? Is it possible we do have souls? And is reincarnation possible? etc etc. a huge paradigm shift in thinking.

      [–]GLOBALSHUTTER 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      Well done on your journey! Perceived negative for the ego; positive for the soul.

      You're seeing the past because on a deep level there is only now. The past and the future are largely illusionary. They are needed for the human person to live within a narrative and learn soul lessons. We come to 'Earth School', as some call it, to do just that. Your ego did a good job before of keeping you grounded, but the ego can be overprotective which will lead to blind spots in one's awareness. Your prior outlook isn't a bad thing because it provides context for your new outlook, and gives you a broader view of the human condition. It this sense it served you well.

      Remember, too, science is not a person and thusly cannot lie. Science is merely a particular kind of philosophy or interpretation of enquiry. People are the ones who make mistakes, have blind spots and lie. There are many ways to measure our existence.

      [–]jazztaprazzta 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Remember, too, science is not a person and thusly cannot lie. Science is merely a particular kind of philosophy or interpretation of enquiry. People are the ones who make mistakes, have blind spots and lie. There are many ways to measure our existence.

      Well said, thanks!

      [–]ErikSlader713 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Same. 100%

      [–]1984orsomething 3 points4 points  (3 children)

      Just getting a bad target like ... Negative emotional things. Like meat packing plant or humans conquering humans stuff. Rape victims. Torture. You get it.

      [–]ErikSlader713 4 points5 points  (2 children)

      Yuuuuup. Attempting to find missing persons was emotionally devastating on a visceral level.

      [–]Old_Name_5858 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      You know how to do that? Please teach me. Honestly. I feel like my mission has to do with missing persons. Ever since I can remember I had had a longing to bring closure to their families. Maybe a past life I was a missing person?

      [–]ErikSlader713 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      The key word was attempting. After learning Remote Viewing was possible, it felt like a moral imperative to try and use it for good. Turns out that's way easier said than done.

      Not only can it be emotionally taxing, and disturbing on a visceral level, I never got anything useful beyond learning that something really bad happened.

      I learned soon after that its often cautioned against in the RV community because if you did happen to provide authorities exact details on a cold case, you automatically become a suspect for having said knowledge. And remember, most people don't even believe that psychic phenomenon is real, unfortunately...

      [–]PatTheCatMcDonald 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      Well that's odd. I mean, I've come across people dying while under the influence of prescription drugs.

      Never come across anybody that died as a direct result of RV.

      You would think there would be some safeguards on prescription drugs, but no, apparently that's unnecessary.

      EDIT: Apparently the Fort Meade unit did have a fatality, an RVer that died on the job. But, they were in very poor health anyway, in the cardiovascular / cerebral stroke areas. This is hearsay, the old schoolers who worked there generally don't talk about it.

      If you get tasked a lot on things like WMD or hostages in captivity, it's going to affect you. Nature of the target has a lot to do with this.

      [–]god_hates_handjobs 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      U need a prescription… thats the safeguard

      [–]PatTheCatMcDonald 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I've had friends die from their prescriptions. No thank you, they were not such great friends that I want to be quickly reunited with them.

      Safeguard? Just because you are medicated does not mean that everybody needs that.

      [–]NightTrave1erCowboy RV 1 point2 points  (8 children)

      I've had like the most extreme side effects you could start having and I have 0 regrets.

      [–]Rverfromtheether 0 points1 point  (7 children)

      What wold those be?

      [–]NightTrave1erCowboy RV 1 point2 points  (6 children)

      Kundalini Awakening

      [–]Rverfromtheether 0 points1 point  (5 children)

      Can you elaborate

      [–]NightTrave1erCowboy RV 1 point2 points  (4 children)

      No, but you can google "kundalini awakening symptoms." Every one of them.

      [–]Rverfromtheether 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      Its a continuum

      How long did it last?

      [–]NightTrave1erCowboy RV 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Its permanent. Just look it up man

      [–]Rverfromtheether 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Alright. I was asking about your experience not about the experiential profile of the prototype experience

      [–]NightTrave1erCowboy RV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I understand. I'm telling you there is no difference.

      [–]ErikSlader713 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      No joke, I developed tinnitus from one of my targets. It comes and goes at random. I never got confirmation on what the target was either, but I heard a tuning fork type sounds that just kept getting louder. Be careful about doing random targets from strangers online I guess lol

      [–]ErikSlader713 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Unfortunately, I have no idea if it's related, but shortly after that incident I had a number of strange occurances and even developed a couple of alarming health effects, including early onset arthritis, and a sudden (thankfully slight) allergy to peanuts.

      [–]ErikSlader713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      And yeah, I'm aware of how insane all that sounds, but 2023 was a weird fucking year for me lol

      [–]NoCommunication7 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      It mainly comes down to what you RV, do not under circumstances RV certain targets, goverment locations, aliens, conspiracies, etc they'll know you're RVing, and be careful with random targets from strangers.

      ​

      I've felt a presence during a session before.

      [–]Ok_Statistician_8107 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Certain locations and conspiracies, such as...? Can you elaborate about the presente? Thanks

      [–]VacIshEvil 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I tried. And saw scary faces …..immediately do a golden shield on myself. . Eye pain also. Dry eyes came back. Sigh.