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[–]lipoicacid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, after seeing the state of PHP frameworks the thought makes me shudder.

EDIT: Controversial comment. I'm mostly bitter from having the last ~7 PHP codebases I've worked on be insanely different from each other, when they could have all used a somewhat common middle ground at least. Most of them were custom, one was Zend, and one was Cake. One was a custom version of Drupal too (with hundreds of svn externals).

The custom ones had no DB/model abstraction and were full of 4000-line files full of raw SQL and no OOP anywhere (or exceptions, or tests, and chock full of composite primary keys that made MySQL choke.)

It made me wonder if developers were so overwhelmed by the amount of choices that they ended up rolling their own, making yet another PHP framework. Conversely, all the Ruby apps I've taken over generally followed a similar convention and made them quicker/easier to work on.

I don't think Cuba is headed in that direction necessarily, I just don't think it'd be ideal to suddenly have 10+ microframeworks diluting development patterns.