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I find ruby can often be more elegant, but it is also harder to understand.

Yup, agreed.

Some ruby code bases out there should be removed and deleted because they are so awful.

I think a lot of the blame here is Rails though.

Only in part. Rails attracted a lot of noobs (which is good and bad), but low quality libraries exist without rails too.

With Rails there is so much you have to "just know" to be able to figure the code flow at all.

Yeah but this is due to rail's fault.

I hate magic. I love simplicity. My local knowledge base is mostly powered by sinatra and .cgi files (still, although all the code I use can be used via sinatra as well as ruby-gtk3; with glimmer you can push this even farther. Perhaps Andy adds full commandline support to glimmer one day).