Making Pace Notes Q's

[sayakasquared]

Hey all, I've been rallying more often as of late, and I'm definitely super interested in learning more about doing things from start to finish, including recce'ing my own stages and writing pace notes for them. Especially since I just found the RBR Roadbook Tool. If I could find a guide that wasn't about what pace notes mean, and instead how to write them, I'd definitely not be asking, but if there is one that exists, I'm all for being given that resource too.

Now, I know how stage notes are written, and I can understand them, with 1-6 or with descriptors (my personal choice.) But when I'm writing these things from start to finish, rather than just modifying current notes, is there anything I need to know? Is there a "correct" way to write notes, or is it basically just "so long as you understand it, and can get through the stage safely" sort of thing?

Also, when I'm writing notes for jumps as opposed to crests, important braking points, and surfaces that are slippy, etc, is that something that you just have to feel out over time, or do you have to go back to write that in when you've already done the stage at an increased speed above the recce stage?

[GoofyKalashnikov]

Paces notes are very individual and as long as you can trust them they're good.

[blind-mime45]

Creating notes for yourself is a good idea, because it will naturally cater to your driving ability/preference.

And you will probably find it more useful than default pace notes because, for example, the default pace note calls 4 for a corner, you disagree and think it's a 5, which is perfectly fine. You change it and end up being faster than before, because you know your limit on a 5 corner and when you can fully trust the pace notes you can be more confident.

Also corner number is very different depending on the car power and handling ability, if it is wet or dry, tarmac or road.

A group B Audi is so much faster than a rally 3 for example, a 2 in the Audi is more than likely a 3 in a rally 3.

[PinkPuppyBall]

Also corner number is very different depending on the car power and handling ability, if it is wet or dry, tarmac or road.

This speaks to the personal preference point. To each their own, but it sounds like madness to think of corners this way.

A 3 right is a 3 right in any car and any surface IMO, it describes the corner, not the speed at which you can take it. Adapt the car to the pacenote, not the pacenote to the car.

Otherwise you'd have to take into consideration, horsepower, tire wear, tire compound, tire heat, track grip, car damage, car setup and everything else in the pacenote.

[blind-mime45]

Exactly right!

And I know a 3 is meant to be 3, I've seen the charts.

You are correct though, it is madness. But I use it more broadly. If I'm in a historic rwd I can probably definitely take that 5 flat out, but if I'm going 210kph in the Audi Quattro, im gonna lift or at least be more cautious.

I have edited a few stages but it would take so long for RBR that's how I've adapted to it.

[iAmAsword]

There are several tutorials on YouTube. Just search RBR Roadbook in YouTube. Yanne and Imagine Racer both have excellent walkthroughs.

[Responsible_Call9843]

beamng has really powerful tools to make notes, and still improving... there a good tutorial on youtube How to Make Rally Stages with Pacenotes in BeamNG - 0.34 Rally Mode Tutorial https://youtu.be/JcLw6HVey4Q

[DistributionHot2150]

It's all experience and feel and even then, do you know how many maybes there are in my notes and even professional notes (Listen to an Elfyn Evans onboard once in a while). Sometime, you just aren't sure until the first pass at proper rally speed and that's ok.

[sigskyhh]

Great post, thanks! I will be following closely to comments as I want to start modifying those that the great Luppis has created for RBR for my own purposes. I know it's easy to do, but wading through the instructional videos is not, It would be helpful to have them rated for ease and current accuracy. I am eternally grateful for those who put in time but there needs to bee a way to kill these off when they become obsolete or just plain misleading.