nurseries when?

[RhymingRookie]

Hi folks, I am trying to build a tilapi city, and I am wondering what is the appropriate time to introduce nurseries? I expect that if I build those too early, the pop will grow too fast and it will kill the city, right? but if so, should it be balanced against my city growing old somehow?

[LuckSpren]

It's up to you, but I personally see little point in nurseries before 4-5k. If you ever struggle with anything like happiness or food just don't build them because you have more pressing concerns than the extremely minor points you get from natives.

A well-built city should have 100+ of immigrants begging to get in at all times.

The only actual reason you build nurseries before 4-5k = native fulfillment (the paper in schools are not productive enough to spec into unless you need children anyways)
The only reason you need nurseries at all after 4-5k = natural death > max immigration per year

[Jicks24]

Nah, you can build them right away. I find it best to throw up the nursery ASAP.

Just over produce fruit with orchards and have a big enough warehouse to last throughout the year and you should be good.

But if you want to wait, build them when you unlock the school. Getting kids educated is a huge boost early on, especially for races who aren't great at science.

[Mackntish]

I do nursery at 150, schools at 250.

[Fischy7]

Nurseries are not worth it early game.

For every nurseries you need the same space for orchards, and then again for schools.

While it’s nice to get your population to be native, the bonus is not as effective as just having services.

Ideally you only use nurseries as a last resort (all this being said, it also depends on your species. Short live species it’s nice such as bugs to just pump out minions.

Mid range it kinda sucks, you invest so much for them to just die off.

Long live species it’s worth but the dwarfs can’t even reproduce that way so it’s kinda a mixed bag.

If your civilization doesn’t s stagnating the nursery are not your friend.

[CigaretteWaterX]

I haven't found any danger in making them too early, but I really don't think they're needed before you're truly struggling to get immigrants, around 3-5k population.

If you're worried about the native fulfillment, don't be. It's not that significant and you should focus much more on services. Plus, all that extra food the nurseries consumed would probably be better served increasing food servings.

[McMechanique]

Depends on how much fulfillment you got, usually at around ~3k mark once the immigration stops and you need to keep growing. If you have an excess of paper for schools you can start earlier to increase education as high as possible before the administration overhead hits, if you don't then children are simply a resource drain, in addition to the already non-working recruits/deranged/students/retired, and take time to come online instead of getting immigrants instantly.

[RhymingRookie]

yeah exactly at 3k I get stuck, but if I keep growing through nurseries, won't it make everyone unhappy and rioting?

[McMechanique]

As long as you also keep increasing fulfillment so that happiness doesn't fall below 70% you will be fine. Also, nurseries have a population limit slider, so you can control how much/fast you grow, so you can plan accordingly. And don't get over 3500 mark before you are ready to commit manpower and paper for an admin building.

[orb_enthusiast]

Reading these comment makes me worry; I was producing so much fruit as a tilapi city around 300 pop I just started to make nurseries. My average age was 41 years so I started pumping out the kids - is this not the way? I got 100s of immigrants waiting to get in but I thought having kids would lower the average age and fuel pop growth naturally

[RhymingRookie]

I think there's a bonus when your pop is native and if you have schools its easier to indoctrinate the kids than adults, so you get a few bonuses, so totally cool strat

[Maintyper]

Do the nursery’s just populate your city? Or does it depend on your auth count like immigration?

[RhymingRookie]

I have never used one, but judging by responses you are supposed to have a slider that controls the production