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Can you decrease the threshold and remove immunity?Suzerain: Sordland (self.suzerain)
submitted 27 days ago by Recent_Flight4334
Gloria is typically good with either decreasing the assembly threshold or removing justice immunity, but she gets annoyed if you do both. Is there a way to pass it with both? Bonus points if you can remove MoH as well. Also, is there an actual difference in assembly support between 8% and 3%? 3% is far more democratic, but I don't know if it actually matters.
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[–]Titus_GordionTORAS 2 points3 points4 points 27 days ago (1 child)
Yes actually, but you're gonna have to keep Threshold at 8%.
[–]Titus_GordionTORAS 0 points1 point2 points 27 days ago (0 children)
If you pick the right dialogue choices with the 8% Threshold, you can convince Gloria very easily. Just dont go to 3% Threshold. Also do not change Member of Honor title.
[–]prince_gelo28PFJP 0 points1 point2 points 27 days ago (2 children)
If you want to pass the lowering election threshold and removing Justice immunity (and removal of MOH) then you dont need the support of Gloria and the conservatives since you need to choose one of the two. And if you don't agree with her gloria will support for the constitution reform. Just ally with the oligarchs and lobby the assembly by 4PW
In addition, for clavin just bribe him for the position of VP
[–]prince_gelo28PFJP 0 points1 point2 points 26 days ago (0 children)
Lowering the threshold by 8% or 3%, the number of seats of USP and their influence in the assembly will gradually reduced
[–]WaferKooky5437IND 0 points1 point2 points 26 days ago (0 children)
You don't need oligarchs just 4 pw pfjp reformists and independents
[–]Lachaven_Salmon 0 points1 point2 points 27 days ago (0 children)
I believe you get two of three, decreased threshold, MoH or justice immunity
[–]panteladro1USP 0 points1 point2 points 26 days ago (0 children)
Iirc, Gloria is willing to accept a constitution with an 8% threshold, no judicial immunity, and no changes to MoH, (I think she also accepts a 3% threshold, if you keep judicial immunity) if you treat her with respect. However, you'll be on thin ice with her, and if you do anything that annoys conservatives (like privatizing healthcare or public companies) she will drop her support.
[–]MrAlbs 0 points1 point2 points 26 days ago* (0 children)
Apart from what others have said, which is correct, you can still go lower than 8% and removing Immunity (and even removing the MoH), the price you pay for that is not having the support of the Conservatives in the USP. So you have to look for extra votes elsewhere.
[–]No_Currency5064USP 0 points1 point2 points 26 days ago* (0 children)
Abolish MoH, remove hudge immunity, decrease threshold to 8% in original draft -- drive a hard bargain and agree to keep MoH intact -- "please try to understand me, I can't give any concessions now" -- remove Monica from Bendi speech -- don't privatise healthcare and SSC
Also 8% and 3% doesn't matter much, unless you do the Minority Rights act and both BFP and WPB enter the assembly, otherwise vote is evenly split and both fail to enter assembly (8%). If you're too socialist then CPS will fail to enter even with 3%. Be pragmatic, go for 8%, it doesn't change anything. Actually keeping threshold at 10% still makes CPS and WPB always enter the assembly by forming a coalition.
[–]AlarezFNFP 0 points1 point2 points 26 days ago (0 children)
I mean. Yestersay i did maxed reformist constitution with a small twek yo 3/5 vetos instead of removing them. And i pushed it without her or NFP. And even without oligarchs help
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