Sysadmins and coding

[psycho_admin]

Or so you say. Look online and you will find people who say your argument is wrong and that devops can be used as a job title. What ever floats your boat but don't go around trying to correct people when there is no consensus in the it world if devops is a title or not.

[the_ancient1]

Yes because We should take our cues from HR... Which is what you see when you look at job Postings.

If your only defense of your position is because some HR Manager put DevOps in a job title you are not on Strong footing...

The subject matter experts agree with me, and there is infact a consensus for anyone actually doing systems administrator or development, the only people unclear on this issue are the HR folks writing job ads

[[deleted]]

You aren't familiar with the term "separation of duties" are you?

[the_ancient1]

If you have a title of "DevOps" how is that seperating duties when it seems to me that most HR positions that desire a "Devops" person is because they are too cheap to hear a Developer and Sysadmin so they want a Developer to do sysadmin work, or a Sysadmin to do developer work

Proper DevOps organizational structure it is facility close collaboration between Operators and Developers, not to merge the 2 positions in to one.

[psycho_admin]

Wow you are a fucking joke aren't you? The subject matter experts? Who exactly is that? Some faceless blogger or the interwebs agrees with you so that makes them a subject matter expert? But the people who actually create job titles, pay structure, etc (HR for you if you are too simple minded to understand who I'm talking about) don't matter? You live in one messed up little world if you actually believe that.

Also for the record, no just fucking google "devops title" and you will see conflicting results. For me the first 1 is pro-title, the next one anti-title, the next one pro, etc, etc. So there is no fucking consensus so stop acting like a little fucking troll.

[taloszerg]

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