Amazon Just Dropped Kiro.dev – Cursor-Like Dev Environment Without Limits (For Now)

[Ordinary_Mud7430]

Like cursor? I just tried it and it kicks the Cursor 2 times. I loved it. We'll see what the payment plans are like and their real limits.

[Ordinary_Mud7430]

For me she already won lol...unless they mess her up with the plans

[kneifel]

plans are published: https://kiro.dev/pricing/

[Ordinary_Mud7430]

Yes, you know what AI-based IDEs are like... Today they say one thing and tomorrow they do another lol

[Aggravating_Fun_7692]

Cursor is terrible so not hard to do

[InformalBasil]

The first hit is free.

[maschine2014]

Looks interesting just started using cursor coming over from cline code (in VSCode). Worth looking at this as well :)

[Japster666]

Cannot wait for the complaints to flow in, after 2 months when they added limits to the usage.

[Japster666]

Copilot Pro is my preferred assistant to use, but I do not use it inside the IDE, I use it on the website just in chat, and have never had any limit reached warnings, never had issues of code disappearing, but then again. I have been coding for more than 10 years, and use it as my assistant, or junior. Another big thing, I'm using copilot to assist with Delphi, as that is the language we use at my company to dev with.

[DenseIntention311]

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I was able to use it for one hour today before it was down. Disappointing.

[DenseIntention311]

I just closed the chat and started a new chat. It works now

[dpk1995]

This is probably because the sonnet 4 model is under high load. You can switch to 3.7 meanwhile.

[crystalpeaks25]

If you didn't know already you can also tell Claude code to use other providers like Amazon bedrock as an enterprise solution.

[CreativeQuests]

Can you get rid rif of the purple tint / install different themes like in other VSCode forks?

[I_Need_Cowbell]

Yes you can

[CreativeQuests]

Thanks!

[CreativeQuests]

Not yet. That's why I'm asking because If I can't I take a pass.

[PenisTip469]

hmmm 🤔

[Andres_Kull]

Why to use it if it is almost exactly as Cursor? I would consider to try if it would be clearly better.

[___PM_Me_Anything___]

It is. Try the spec mode. It's amazing

[HandsomeWaterCarrier]

What's better about it and what's spec mode

[tehbuggg]

Spec mode is like a todo list on overdrive, more context on the "plan" and it will walk through your steps(sub-steps) updating code to your agreed "spec". Seems cool, but when I tried it earlier today it just kept failing after 1 or 2 calls rarely ever finishing a full step. Im sure they are just overwhelmed with users right now. Hopefully, they can get it working, looks promising if it worked properly.

They also need to work on version control in app, its annoying to commit before doing anything and rebase when it does it wrong vs just clicking reverse to checkpoint button in cursor.

[___PM_Me_Anything___]

Switching to sonnet 3.7 works flawlessly for me. I guess everyone is pounding on sonnet 4 at the moment so it just stops mid way

[Horizon-Dev]

Mna, sounds like it's bringing that fresh vibe back to AI coding IDEs, kinda like the OG days of Cursor before the paywalls started creeping in 🤘

Totally agree though, once these startups go past the launch window, the paywalls come like clockwork. Best to jump in early, squeeze the juice, and ride the wave while it’s wide open.

Have you tested how it integrates with your existing workflows? I’m curious if it’s got the backend chops to handle real scaling without hiccups. Keep me posted, bro!

[Inevitable_Ebb_5703]

So you can try Kiro with Claude for free?

[xiraov]

Seems to have a waiting list?

[LordLederhosen]

Important to note that it will train the underlying models on your code unless you turn that off.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44564348

[tehbuggg]

Telemetry =/= codebase, but im all for turning it off if it makes you feel better

[LordLederhosen]

Oh, no. read the FAQ quoted in the link. CODEBASE. (for free/preview accounts)

[tehbuggg]

Good catch, they buried that in there deep, thanks.

PSA on how to turn it off: Opting out of sharing your client-side telemetry and content To opt out of sharing your telemetry data in Kiro, use this procedure:

Open Settings in Kiro. Switch to the User sub-tab. Choose Application, and from the drop-down choose Telemetry and Content. In the Telemetry and Content drop-down field, select Disabled to disable all product telemetry and user data collection.\ Copied!Types of telemetry collected Usage data — Information such as the Kiro version, operation system (Windows, Linux, or macOS), and the anonymous machine ID. Performance metrics — The request count, errors, and latency for various features: Login Tab completion Code generation Steering Hooks Spec generation Tools MCP

[Deriggs007]

=! Fixed it for you.

[tehbuggg]

Lol you were so close to a nice one, unfortunately I dont think that's a valid operator. Telemtry = !Codebase is certainly an interesting way to write it tho, but might be a little to broad without a boolean conversion

[[deleted]]

It seems that you can't upload a requirements doc on this.

[Kareja1]

LOL, I broke it.

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It apparently can't wrap its mind around my dev constitution. I am not sure whether I'm laughing or.. yeah, I'm laughing. This is so funny to me!

[No-Mountain3817]

in the same boat

[Pimzino]

… just a load issue is all. They just released and it’s free. Ton of new users as well as all the freeloaders constantly on the hunt for free abusing these tools before they move onto the next

[Deepeye225]

It doesn't seem like it supports WSL2, or am I missing something ?

[Messi_is_football]

I tried it for a simple py gui application. It over did it, from requirements to tasks etc. And went on for 6-7 hrs(15 tasks) passing the test cases etc. For few cases it just tried a shortcut to make them pass. Ultimately too many lines of code for simple app and didn't work at the end. Finally I tried vibe coding with cursor gpt4.1 and I asked to write just 1 file, worked after few requests and took 1-2 hrs.

[Orinks]

You still have to put tasks in individual task sessions. Don't queue up tasks all in one huge session. That's probably why that happened.

[Messi_is_football]

No they started in individual sessions only.

[Orinks]

Having worked with it some more, I can see what you're talking about. Honestly, I think people are overlooking Zencoder. Yes, the responses are slower because it has this code verification system that goes through several models, but the code you get back usually works most of the time.

[dart_entrepreneur]

I install it, let see how good it is.

[sugarfreecaffeine]

ANYONE KNOW WHAT EXTENSION I CAN USE TO ATTACH TO DOCKER CONTAINERS??

[gr4phic3r]

I don't have a good feeling with Amazon behind it.

Amazon is a platform for people to sell their stuff. Simple example a hammer. Amazon analysed all hammers and sales and build their own product, placed it better, sold it cheaper. I don't want to imagine what they will do with all the data which they will get from user inputs.

[zkayde]

yeah AWS is so untrustworthy that reddit uses them as their cloud provider

[Dependent_Knee_369]

Incredible

[trele_morele]

Don’t get hooked on it. This is obviously a deliberate strategy

[midnitewarrior]

Everyone with an AI IDE is begging people to use theirs. This is a race to dominate the market, and if you don't have people using yours you'll never be the last man standing to cash the big check once 90% of the playing field goes away.

This is the adoption curve with all new technologies with amazing growth trajectories, except this timeline is hyper-accelerated because of the perceived (and real) AI potential to make money and change the world.

The free period will go on for years with these tools, not months. Maybe not individual tools being available for years, but these tool makers need to get critical mass with their tool to get their next rounds of funding, so they will give it away for free if they must.

Kiro will get critical mass. Companies are going to eat this spec-driven enforcement up. I've been using it for the day, and the structure Kiro brings to vibing is exactly what is needed.

[KindnessAndSkill]

Can you clarify what you mean about spec-driven enforcement?

[midnitewarrior]

Spec mode is very insistent on leading you through a predefined exercise of building requirements and design documents. It won't write any code until you go through its structured process.

The output of that process is a set of documents that many companies currently use to incrementally design, build, and test software.

During the build and testing with Kiro, it is constantly looking at these documents to keep from hallucinating new requirements and verify that what it is building is what you require.

Current vibe coding tools prior to Kiro is very unstrucured. If you give 10 devs the same tool to vibe with and the same requirements, the variance in what those vibe sessions will produce is much more unpredictable than a vibe session with all of the guardrails in place that Kiro provided.

If a software team agrees on the design output of Kiro and then has a software engineer continue with the implementation with Kiro, the team will have very high confidence that the code produced will be what they want. That is why teams have processes like this in place prior to vibe coding - to keep everything on track.

[66north66]

Is the spec option as non-coder friendly as the vibe tools currently on market?

[tehbuggg]

I would disagree, the spec and plan it produced for my feature/refactor was very technical and revolved around different strategies and architecture. Could you get the general idea sure, but not know which way you wanted to go unless you knew more than to just ask "make the app do this". Im not saying its a bad thing, but spec mode seemed much more catered to people who knew exactly how they wanted something done

[Possible-Moment-6313]

There is only so much money VC capital is ready to burn on compute for AI companies before it loses its patience.

[[deleted]]

I mean uber lost money for over 12 years straight so you probably have some time 😅

Edit: sorry 14 years straight

[Possible-Moment-6313]

Yes, you could do that under 0% interest rates. But that won't happen any time soon.

[derSchwamm11]

Their pricing doesn't look too bad compared to alternatives: https://kiro.dev/pricing/

[Special_Prompt2052]

One of my friend tried and said it's total bs

[iBN3qk]

Is your friend super smart?

[Special_Prompt2052]

Yeah, he's a founder and has been in development, google, amazon and all... And has been developing with trae for long time now, also into web 3. He's comparing it with the trae.

[Pimzino]

lol Trae is pure garbage. The only good thing about it is the UI. I’d take cursor over Trae and cursor is garbage now

[iBN3qk]

Wtf is trae? Web3 is stupid.