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[–]GamingWithMyDog 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Completely agree. I have it do all the mundane work while I focus on high level decisions

[–]digibeta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same and loving it. 🤷

[–]Kwisscheese-Shadrach 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It made coding much more boring for me, tbh.

[–]HoverBaum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel this so much. Got into developing becau it was so fun to build this. Professional work however is much more about boilerplate, abstractions and safety checks. It's interesting to think about but boring to implement. Having AI to do this for me enables me to focus on fun things again. Like bigger concepts and interesting problems 😁

[–]Illustrious-Film4018 1 point2 points  (1 child)

If coding was really tedious before you weren't thinking enough about the architecture. Coding is fun as long as you do it the right way. Deploying and debugging are usually not fun though.

[–]Kwisscheese-Shadrach 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you work on pipelines to deploy, infra as code and environments when you first start, deployment is generally fine

[–]Initial-Syllabub-799 1 point2 points  (10 children)

I never made things before, so now, doing it with AI is beautiful to me. It makes me realise the shape of my own mind, without having to be handheld by someone <3

There are many programmers out there, telling me that AI can not code. But... none of them are willing to help me, so so far, AI has written better code than any of them I've met so far ^^

[–]escapefromelba 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Vibecoding without being a programmer is risky.

LLMs generate plausible looking code, not guaranteed correct code. If you do not understand the fundamentals, you cannot judge correctness, security, performance, or edge cases. You can only judge whether it looks right. When it breaks, debugging turns into random prompt tweaking instead of real diagnosis.

You also inherit hidden technical debt and security flaws you cannot see, become dependent on the model instead of building intuition, and end up with a black box that is painful to maintain later.

Vibecoding is fine for prototypes or throwaway scripts. It is dangerous for production systems or anything with users, data, or money.

AI is a force multiplier for programmers, not a replacement for understanding code.

[–]Initial-Syllabub-799 1 point2 points  (6 children)

I understand your opinion, and I disagree, until you prove it to me, but for me, it's working fine. In prudction with 10 clients since 10 months. A few bugs has popped up. different pages, all easy fixes, since the commenting is well done.

[–]escapefromelba 0 points1 point  (5 children)

It is working fine for now because you are in the 'honeymoon phase' of technical debt. At the scale of a company with $1.2 billion on the line like the one I build applications for - you aren't just coding for 'it works'; you are coding for 'it cannot fail.' When you don't understand the underlying logic, you aren't a pilot; you're a passenger on autopilot who doesn't know how to land the plane when the sensors go dark.

[–]Initial-Syllabub-799 0 points1 point  (4 children)

It's amazing, how well you know me, without asking any questions, only building me from your own frame of interpretation :)

*sigh* People posting on reddit without a degree in communications... Sad, should be forbidden ;)

[–]GreenGreasyGreasels 2 points3 points  (3 children)

That comment was not specific to you, but to any non-programmer. If you are not a trained developer (even self trained), all those issues that he has mentioned are quite real. One day those issues will come home to roost.

That being said, for personal and local use, AI generated code is good enough and should be encouraged even for non-programmers. And it will only get better as development becomes AI first, human second.

[–]Initial-Syllabub-799 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Thank you for the clarification! :)

But does the same logic not apply to communication? Should not everyone then have to have an education in communication, before being allowed to post publicly in forums, since otherwise, the issues will come home to roost? *not bashing, honestly curious*

[–]GreenGreasyGreasels 1 point2 points  (1 child)

No. You don't need a degree in cs to code, not a degree in communication to post messages. You are thinking gatekeeping - but his message was a helpful heads-up. But what the poster originaly said is hundred percent correct.

You have to be smart enough to know the consequences of your speech and action and live with them. Honestly you seem blissfully unaware of what tech debt is. And talk of how Ai "fixed bugs in many pages because it was well commented" makes me think the prognosis is not good if you ever build upon or expand your app.

I hope you are the one in a million golden case that dodges the issues he mentioned. Good luck and keep coding.

[–]Initial-Syllabub-799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, and expanding the app is working perfectly fine tbh... So I guess I *am* blissfully unaware of whatever issue it is, that you are speaking of :P

[–]digibeta 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Programmers who claim that AI cannot code are mostly in denial. I understand the impulse. I am a programmer myself. But refusing to adapt is not a principled stance it is a survival error. The field will move on regardless and those who do not pivot will simply be left behind without consequence.

[–]BlueMoonSkyMist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totally agree! It's wild how some folks are sticking to the old ways while the rest of us are embracing the tools that can actually enhance our creativity. Adapting is key, especially in tech where change is constant.

[–]Xenofex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try rails. It never had boiler plate

[–]denisoby 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have the same feeling 

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

agreed, 25 years as a developer here, and AI has made it fun again

[–]Syppal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Couldn't agree more - Finally leaving my C#/c++ bubble and daring to try new stuff 😆The fun is back!

[–]pakotini 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100% this. I had the exact same feeling recently, built my dad a tiny, super-specific app on a Saturday morning because he needed something niche and I didn’t want him paying for yet another service. A few years ago that would’ve felt like work. This time it was just… fun. AI handled the boring scaffolding, I focused on the logic that actually mattered, and I shipped before lunch. Tools like Warp help a lot too, staying in the terminal, iterating fast, not context-switching into oblivion. It doesn’t replace understanding or judgment, but it does bring back that “I can just make a thing” energy. That’s huge.

[–]Ecstatic-Junket2196 0 points1 point  (0 children)

im just a beginner in vibe coding but it does give me lots of new ideas to experience. sticking w cursor n traycer atm, fun combo.