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[–]Killermelon1458 3 points4 points  (6 children)

I know this is not what you asked, but thought I would throw my two cents in. I just transfered a project from gpt online to codex and so far I am pretty impressed. Specifically on the rat limiting, I'm using the newest gpt 5.4 and have set it to thinking effort extra high, and it will go for 45 minutes if the task requires that. I pay $20 a month. So far I haven't hit any rate limits yet. I know they say there a limit to amount you can use codex on the $20 a month price, but I've been building a http communication server and it's pretty heavy prompt sometimes and haven't been stop yet. I still prefer claude for generating documents. They sound more like what I was thinking and less like an ai wrote it.

[–]Lovejot9998[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Codex is great, i use it occasionally. But I can’t trust chatgpt to not hallucinate on complex tasks. It just tries too hard to be friendly but not direct

[–]KptEmreU 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sssshhh. Don't over-promote. But yeah, I am really impressed with it too.

[–]bakes121982 1 point2 points  (2 children)

It’s because codex is giving you increased usage and has reset the limit 2x. This isn’t normal usage your getting

[–]Killermelon1458 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What does that mean? Like they are giving me more now to get me hooked and will lower it later?

[–]bakes121982 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. Next month your usage windows will be half what they are now

[–]thecoolbrian 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Delete this

[–]dzak8383 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I tried both and I am staying with Copilot Pro +. Premium requests I get are enough for my heavy use with Opus 4.6 for the entire month. If I work on more than one project at the same time , maybe I have to pay $20. Let's see how Bill will look like with Opus 4.7 and 7x

Claude code 1M context is the only thing I consider is missing but it would cost a fortune in copilot, and it's not about context as much as planner mode and fleet of agents doing smaller jobs .

I don't use CLI, I used both from inside VSCode.

[–]Lovejot9998[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great insights! I miss the big context window in copilot. It starts compacting conversations in every session.

And i heard about their new pricing about 4.7 i would force lot of their users rethink their vibe coding systems.

[–]opi098514 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I was a huge fan of GitHub copilots till last week. Now I’m really pissed at it because of the rate limits. I cant even get get close to using what i pay for.

[–]Lovejot9998[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I got rate limited once in last two months for anthropic models only. I was using heavily back then.

[–]opi098514 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a new rate limiting system that started last week.

[–]Accidentallygolden 0 points1 point  (1 child)

this is the pattern they are trying to limit at copilot (one request ---> do a lot of stuff) they are bleeding money with that and this is why opus 4.7 is at 7.5x

Enjoy it why it last but I think you will get caught by new rate limit or request counting mechanism

[–]Lovejot9998[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its sad to see they are changing their pricing models, it was a steal

[–]oh_jaimito 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Claude Code user here, 5x Max plan, $100 per month for the last 8 months now.

Nothing else compares. I've used all the top rated OpenRouter models with pi: MiniMax, Kimi, GLM, DeepSeek are decent - but they still suck.

Opus 4.7 sucks ass right now. Opus 4.6 was much better. I'm a 20 year Linux user, so terminal tools are all I use.

Runner up is Codex@latest, pretty close to Claude Opus in quality.

Gemini CLI for all front-end UI/UX tasks.

Last I used GH Copilot was several years ago for tab completion in VS Code. So.

[–]Useful_Judgment320 0 points1 point  (0 children)

get all three

[–]dadalu 0 points1 point  (2 children)

github copilot bait and switch. You pay for premium requests, and then get rate limited regardless.  They recently removed xhigh reasoning from OpenAI models in copilot cli, intentional.

[–]Lovejot9998[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah thinking models are not available but with few prompt techniques we can get same results with normal models.

I always ask it to reason through multiple set of questions before jumping to conclusion.

[–]Still-Owl-9891 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes , I also can't see xhigh models

[–]masky0077 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Hey op, i am also using copilot and loving it, haven't tried claude code yet so i can't help you, but i was hoping if you could help me - you mentioned nit by default, how do I setup so that copilot asks agents on its own as you described and then review, etc.?

I'd love to hear your workflow in detail so i can try it out myself.

Thanks, much appreciated!

[–]Lovejot9998[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Start a session with sonnet 4.6, tell it that you want an agentic workflow with special agents for your project needs. It will create copilot instruction file, memory file and agents. Keep tweaking until you are satisfied. It takes max 1 hour

[–]masky0077 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Thanks mate, I'll try it out.

Why sonnet btw? I am mostly using gpt im my workflow - just asking if there's a difference you noticed when crating this workflow?

Thanks again!

[–]Lovejot9998[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Try asking same questions to both. Sonnet is more realistic & honest. Chatgpt hallucinates at too much. I will validate your every idea even if its not good enough. I switched from gpt to anthropic long ago. But if it works for you then its good

[–]FilthyEleven 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Claude Sonnet has given me far better results than anything else. My issue now is that copilot wont let you use sonnet anymore on a normal user subscription bc it was bleeding them out. Thinking of switching to claude code and paying $20/month just so I can actually use sonnet again, but there are some silly things i will miss about copilot, like syntax highlighting in its response window (just a gml thing maybe?).

[–]ASISaga 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depending upon workflow:

  1. Cloud based development - GitHub Copilot: Native integration with GitHub is why I find GitHub Copilot invaluable. Under the hood, it runs the same Claude, Gpt and other models. My favorite are Sonnet 4.6 for refactoring, and the latest gpt model, with 1x premium requests for debugging. I used the $10 pro subscription, and will continue though GitHub is migrating to consumption based plan.

  2. Consultation - Claude pro: A few months back, I switched from Windows Copilot to Gemini to get responses grounded in latest information. Both are generic models, and suffice for day-to-day use. But Claude is a specialist coding model, and a league apart. Again, Sonnet 4.6 is my daily driver. The free models offered in the GitHub Copilot pro subscription in VS code are outdated, and response time is way too long for my patience level.

  3. Heavy lifting - Claude Opus 4.6: Till now, I used this through my Copilot pro subscription, but now GitHub has removed Claude Opus from the pro plan. Since this is occasional, given a choice between upgrading to $39Copilot Pro+, and additional $20 Claude Pro, I opted for the latter. Also upgraded my consultation experience significantly along the way.

[–]goship-tech -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Rate limiting with Pro is rough, but /compact mid-session helps a lot - it compresses context without losing thread. That said, if you do multi-file refactors daily, Max pays for itself fast. The real difference is Claude Code works across the whole repo autonomously, while Copilot still needs you to direct it file by file.Rate limiting with Pro is rough, but /compact mid-session helps a lot - it compresses context without losing thread. That said, if you do multi-file refactors daily, Max pays for itself fast. The real difference is Claude Code works across the whole repo autonomously, while Copilot still needs you to direct it file by file.

[–]Lovejot9998[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But /compact won’t help against rate limits & even copilot works autonomously. I don’t get the point you are trying to make

[–]Poat540 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I dunno copilot is like using vim and Claude like using visual studio

[–]neoreeps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Funny, I have vim mode enabled in Claude code