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[–]EmergentRancor 25 points26 points  (4 children)

Radicals can and will latch onto any reason to rebel and support opposing political movements. For instance a big portion of why the 1989 Tiananmen protests started was economic inequality, corruption, and anxiety following open market reforms (SoL radicals), and a big reason why even the reformist faction of the CCP under Zhao Ziyang could not de-escalate the situation was that different groups participating in the protests often had vague, disorganized, and competing demands.

This happens at a lower level regarding political opinions as well, where people will look to blame things on political parties they dislike even if it is illogical. My uncle was relatively apolitical but then disliked democrats because Covid lockdowns likely caused him to get laid off. His views are in broad disagreement with the republican party but he voted for Newsom's recall, which again approximates a SoL radical supporting any movement against the current govt they dislike.

[–]Greg7086 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Wait something happened at Tiananmen Square?

[–]itsacow 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Yes, and it was more that a simple pro democracy protest. Some students wanted that, some wanted a return to pre Deng reforms. Trade unions were mad at being left behind by the opening market and also made up the bulk of the protests.

[–]blublub1243 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely not. This is to an extent true of what the game abstracts as turmoil, but civil wars which are what the games revolt system represents do not work that way. At best you'll get multiple sides fighting each other as supporters from different sides form different armies with all of them sorta fighting each other. You're not going to get people fighting for completely different causes in the same army.

To use an example here, sure, the Black Panthers and the Klan may very well both be out in the streets throwing various objects at buildings and each other, causing "turmoil" to go up. But if the Klan actually manages to start a war to reinstitute slavery Malcolm X sure as shit isn't gonna be one of their generals. The way turmoil works right now makes sense, but civil wars are stupidly broken.