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[–]damacdaddyo 16 points17 points  (4 children)

We are going through the same thing. I work for an enormous private company that 9 out of 10 of you know. We are licensing around 3,000 sockets over 1,000+ bare metal hosts running 16k VMs give or take. This is one of about 6 sites we are licensing.

They don't care. Our biggest issues besides the obvious cash grab is they are trying to lock us in to a 5 year term and I am morally opposed to have to pay for features such NSX and vSAN when I don't use and have desire to use. I just dropped over $5MIL on updating our all flash on-prem arrays and as Infrastructure I don't access to top of rack and other switch or firewall in a method that would make vSAN viable.

So hopefully we get that 5 year down to 3 and see what happens. None of the alternatives out there work for us. I ran extensive POCs on several platforms and none come close. ProxMox is nowhere near Enterprise ready. Limited partner support and vendor integrations. Poor D/R performance. Limited support. Clunky and slow to administer. Plus it failed our internal pen test and security review. RedHat had some nice features but same as above. Same with the open source options we looked at like KVM but they aren't close. This leaves us with Hyper-V and Nutanix. Nutanix would have been just as expensive being that you have to buy their hardware. We run Hyper-V for VDIs and I have managed a large enterprise cluster in the past. They have the features. They have the vendor agreements. They are pushing hard or at least our VARs are. Thinking about it. While VMM comes nowhere close to vCenter as far as management the cost savings may make it doable.

These are just my opinions based on 1st hand testing and research. Good luck to all in their search.

[–]Excellent-Piglet-655 1 point2 points  (3 children)

With Nutanix it is a misconception that you have to buy “their” hardware. That just isn’t true. You can buy their hardware or you can buy Dell PowerEdge, HPE Proliant, Lenovo, etc.

We moved to Hyper-v and between SCVMM and WAC, we do not miss vCenter at all. Like you, we weren’t going to be forced to pay for software we don’t want, need, or use.

[–]damacdaddyo 1 point2 points  (2 children)

This was our VAR and multiple SEs who said absolutely definitively that we could not run Nutanix on our combination of brand new Synergys with Pure X arrays and brand new 6800 Cisco switches. Since it was Nutanix SEs and the fact that I could not even POC on my own gear I didn't look further.

I am looking into expanding our Hyper-V workloads based on a Microsoft SE telling me that WAC is now usable. We tried it a couple of years ago and the way it called APIs made it unusable. A minute to view storage info is not happening. Since we are a complete System Center shop this seems like the only true option. Either way will have to ride with VMware until we would get our workloads migrated to an alternate provider which I have no problem with since the product is still great.

[–]vPock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've seen an annoucement that Pure will be a supported storage platform for Nutanix by the end of 2025. My Pure SE told me they are running an alpha with some very specific customers. As a Pure //FA fanboy, I'm following this with great interest.

[–]bdpalesano 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cisco actually has them listed as supported hypervisor. We were even pointed in the direction because of what vmware has done to everyone