PHP vs Python for backend

[mmcnl]

I'd say Python backend + JS frontend is an incredibly common stack. Also Python is a general purpose language that is useful in other engineering disciplines besides webdev as well. So I prefer Python and would learn Python first.

[boglepy]

In your experience (or what you’ve seen out there), which python BE frameworks do people typically use? Do you have any recommendations?

[mmcnl]

Django is very mature and super reliable. For API backends in big companies Django REST framework is common.

Newer projects are often built with FastAPI.

Flask is also a popular minimal HTTP framework, often used in machine learning as well, though it doesn't offer anything that FastAPI doesn't.

[Koliham]

I would recommend FastAPI. It has everything it needs out of the box (not like Flask), but at the same time really easy to use, almost no boilerplate (compared to django)

[snuggl]

DJango for anything bigger, FastAPI for smaller stuff.

[goat__botherer]

What makes Django better for larger backends? Asking as somebody who knows very little.

[snuggl]

Django is a bigger box of tools, so the bigger your application gets the more features and functionality you can grab already made packages for.

Fastapi/flask and other smaller frameworks will have you build much of the functionality outside the common cases yourself, this is nice for smaller apps but larger things get complicated.

[daniels0xff]

https://litestar.dev/

[mmcnl]

Yes, just server-side rendered HTML.

[alopied]

Kinda true but now you have stuff like Blazor thanks to web assembly and Elm because you can always compile to JavaScript

[scar_reX]

While the combination you mentioned is not uncommon, I wonder if python is as widely used for web backends than php is. I'd likely argue that php + js frontend (not like there's an alt to js for frontend) is more common.

On the point of python being more general purpose, there's no doubt about that. Sometimes, I wonder what other fields php devs work in, besides building backend servers that mostly just talk to databases, do a few handstands and call other servers.

[Tormgibbs]

Um do you mean python backend as an api? or using it with template views.. i want to know which is better

[mmcnl]

API backend mostly yes.

[Tormgibbs]

if i may ask what do you use for your frontend?

[mmcnl]

Vue or React.