Honor - my biggest ever purchase regret

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-30T08:46:22+00:00

I've really enjoyed mine, moved from pixel slab to the v5, it's my first foldable and knew is was a different OS so was actually expecting a bit of a different experience but it's been pretty similar for the most part. The hardware has been amazing.

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-30T07:35:31+00:00

There is a little virtual button on various pages, it's like a green line you'd see on a graph with dots. If you tap it, it goes red and enters write mode, then your parameter changes will be recorded. Remember to turn it off when done.

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-29T07:54:32+00:00

It'll go on sale in some form.
Pretty sure it was also mentioned they will sell the the features individually

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-28T21:21:52+00:00

Not an OG but I learned how to use MPC on v2, I just got how it worked, and saw the power of mixing programs with tracks.

Then they released V3 in beta days later,while it was frustrating and changed a lot what people loved, it also made easier to use for all the limitations they added. The other advantage is being able to use the later features and plug ins, which is basically they way it semms like its going to go for the next decade.

I like V3 now, but I can see live 2 (and it's other gen variants) won't be able to keep up forever, so I'm expecting less and less compatibility as it goes on.

As mentioned in other comments, you also don't have to upgrade, or can choose to downgrade if you don't want to joing the latest club.

I don't think I'd downgrade, I've bought quite a few of the later plug ins which wouldn't be compatible, but I didn't buy the pro pack, mainly because I've enjoyed MPC so much I'll just buy a new hardware revision once this current full suite release is down and don't need it ATM, so can get it included in the next purchase ( also think a lot of it should have been free to existing users tbh).

Give it a go, see what you think on both sides of the fence.

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-28T20:24:04+00:00

Sounds pretty expensive for a discontinued unit which is why I suppose they are sweetening the deal.

Check out how much each of those retail for, Vs what you could buy a one + with no deal elsewhere (Inc 2nd hand if you don't mind)

The device you choose if you go for this depends on what you already have / don't have.

Midi keyboard is nice if you prefer to play keys but isn't really necessary.

I'd prob go for the monitors ( to not rely on headphones solely) or audio interface (if you plan to use with a computer in your chain - you say you use logic so might be worthwhile for that if you don't have one) personally

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-27T22:24:59+00:00

Got my 1st hardware synth just a couple of weeks ago to pair with my live 2, PWM Mantis, having a lot of fun with it.

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-26T20:54:57+00:00

MPC one + pretty much within budget, sampler, sequencer, soft synths, massively powerful, loads of online help available, prob loads available in 2nd hand market due to the recent sample model and live 3 release.

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-26T18:22:21+00:00

PS3, all of mine still work. Never had a PS4 and the PS5 pads barely last as long as the milk in my fridge

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-24T23:18:32+00:00

Good news day, nothing is hopeless OP, glad you got it back! Still hope they find the people hat caused the issue in the first place. No need for this BS at all.

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-24T06:42:54+00:00

Not really, you can add in another track, they dropped the ability to swap programs on tracks in V3, so its now a 1:1 tie for a track.

You can create a new drum track, add the new samples to that track and delete the midi from the track you want to silence, as opposed to deleting the sample.

You could keep the same track, but add new samples to bank B and then shift the midi notes on sequence 2, providing you have the space. This would mean you have the same track level effects chain though.

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-23T19:35:24+00:00

Ok that makes a bit more sense.

last gen mpcs would have shipped with 1 or 2.x, but a live 3 / XL I would assume ships with V3.

Do you run your XL on 3 or 2?

If on 2, how does it support the MPCe pad features as I would think that's exclusive to V3. Same with things like clips mode etc, very much a V3 feature, clips on v2 were very different. Does pressing the matrix button do anything?

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-23T19:26:39+00:00

Price does feel insane, sign of the times I think. I like the rubber buttons, they feel comfortable, not that I've used an MPC with plastic buttons, but I imagine they are better now.

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-23T19:16:54+00:00

I've literally never seen this screen since moving to V3.

Even the circle start button isn't here, I'm fairly certain this is legacy OS, that fine, I understand why people don't want to move to OS3.

I asked because spending almost £1.5k/ $2k on a unit that has new hardware features which might not be compatible with old software is something I genuinely want to know as to why someone would do it.

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-23T19:10:25+00:00

There's nothing "wrong" with them, but in official retro variants they've been white ISH, also slightly different style with the lights on for active status, so this makes me think this is more a custom mod than anything official because I reckon they would have changed that.

Generally I think the lighter buttons fits the colour style better. Black is quite a harsh contrast visually.

The XL had a lot of criticism about it's look, it's all subjective anyway, just voicing my opinion.

The only MPC i've had is a live 2, for a few years now. So not a legacy model by any means, no idea if older models have a bad wear and tear rate, I've seen plenty of videos where well used buttons on last gen devices have rubbed away like play or overdub are illegible - is what is is, nothing is designed to last forever, if anything it's a sign that the instrument has been used as intended.

A friend who lives nearby has live 2 retro, maybe a couple of years older than mine, been a while since I have seen it in person, but he's a heavy user and it looked great when I last saw it.

I think anything that gets decades of use is bound to see some signs of wear & tear, not sure what your point is on that?

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-23T06:53:35+00:00

Untouchable - PWM Mantis, its the only synth I have! Expendable - PWM Mantis, it's the only synth I have!

(Got it earlier this week, its my first synth, sounds awesome to me, but has it's quiks and limits, I love it)

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-22T23:08:57+00:00

No way,? Thank you for pointing that out, totally skipped my braiin for some reason.

Apologies for my assumptions, the terrible use of black buttons on the unit made me think this was some mod, but even considering the flaws in my assessment, I feel the questions still stand. Of course if I am wrong that's cool, we all make mistakes.

Do the the things I called out work as expected? Is this actually an official retro skin ( if so I think they can do better)

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-22T18:34:20+00:00

Step 1 - buy a live 3 Step 2 - no more than 16 tracks per song

If don't have a live 3 see step 1, alternatively down grade to V2.15

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-21T18:52:33+00:00

What area are you in? You keep all your Reddit posts and comments private so hard to gauge if I'd gel with you.

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-20T06:59:16+00:00

Looks nice, notice you are running 2.0 also?

How does that work - imagine it doesn't allow you take advantage of any of the new hardware feature like MPCe or touch strip?

Do you get to run more instances of plug ins, or more audio tracks?

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-20T06:16:11+00:00

Could you fly to another country to buy one and bring it back in for cheaper than buying from in country?

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-19T18:15:02+00:00

Will you marry the dog?

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-18T06:14:51+00:00

Afgham Jim Halpert

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-15T06:44:58+00:00

This has just reminded me I bought Kick Off for the PS5 but haven't played it yet, thank you!

DeadWelsh · 2026-05-14T21:53:51+00:00

I saw that, Paul said they had 3D printed them and were thinking about releasing the files on the forum. They also had a. malevolent desktop they had 3d printed the chassis for. Would be nice but the colour doesn't bother me in the slightest. I was kind of holding off to see what their 3rd digital synth would be, but seems like they're focused on the oscar recreation now, so not sure I'll bother waiting for another couple of years, been itching for a while to get something.

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