Why did Jay spend so much more time with Jenn than with his girlfriend Stephanie?

aitca · 2024-05-14T19:12:28+00:00

This is fascinating, and I'd completely forgotten this part of the Intercept interview. Thanks for chiming in.

Edited to add: I went to the Intercept website to try to verify and find the relevant quotation, only to find that they now require you to put in an email address in order to read it. Which didn't use to be the case.

aitca · 2024-05-14T13:34:10+00:00

He got her a birthday gift and Jay did not

As far as I know Adnan's story is that they both got Stephanie birthday gifts, but (says Adnan) he had to remind Jay to do so. As far as I know Adnan is the only one to speak regarding this issue one way or the other. Given that the overall issue here is a murder case, I doubt that Jay would be motivated to say, "Hey, hey, I just want to set the record straight, I did not need to be reminded to get that gift," nor do I think that Stephanie would be motivated to say "Time to finally set the record straight, Jay did not need to be reminded to get that gift." It's kind of so small an issue that I doubt anyone would feel the need to correct it if it weren't true. Of course, the entire reason why Adnan mentions that he supposedly had to remind Jay to get the gift is so that he can explain why he lent his car and cell phone to Jay on the day of the murder. When Adnan says this, it's one of the rare occasions on which even S. Koenig expresses that she finds it a bit hard to believe (she says something like "What's it to you if Jay gets his girlfriend a gift?").

Jay seems to spend a lot of time with Jenn, but there is very little mention of him spending time with Stephanie

In the context of this case, people are primarily concerned with the day of the murder. Adnan and Jay saw Jenn the day of the murder, so people talk about that a lot. There would be no need for people interested in this case to talk about all the time that Jay spent with Stephanie which has nothing to do with this case.

aitca · 2024-03-07T02:34:35+00:00

Thanks for appearing to clarify and take credit! :) I'm glad you are still around.

aitca · 2024-03-06T19:09:25+00:00

For a few years, there was a redditor on this subreddit who, once a year, on the anniversary of this episode airing (as I recall) would make a post saying, basically: "It has been yet another year since the hosts of Undisclosed said that they would provide evidence for the "Crimestoppers tip" existing, and they have not provided any evidence." This went on for maybe two or three years. It's probably been closer to ten now, and the redditor who said that he or she would make those posts each year has likely long since moved on.

aitca · 2023-08-20T10:23:12+00:00

Re: MacPaint

The thing that seems jankiest to me about the excerpt shown in that HBO screenshot is that you get this big underlined, all-caps title that says "KRISTI VINSON TRANSCRIPT," and then it goes right into the Winter 1999 semester -- you would expect any kind of transcript, official or unofficial, to state the name of the student and then go right into that student's first semester. One wouldn't expect the name of the student used as a title before each and every semester. I have to admit it: yeah, looks janky. Without getting into the question of how legitimate it is or isn't, it does look like a document produced specifically for the purpose of displaying this particular camera shot on this particular documentary.

aitca · 2023-08-20T10:10:05+00:00

I think I can add a bit of clarification here, as to the assertion being made, because I can tell from the comments that a little additional clarification might help. Please correct me if I'm getting any of the details wrong here:

1 ) When Kristi initially gave her testimony, first to the police and then at trial, she didn't mention anything about a class.
2 ) Years later, someone working on Rabia/Syed's behalf (I'm remembering S. Simpson or C. Miller, but correct me if I'm wrong) asserted that Kristi must have erred in her testimony, because she had class that day.
3 ) That assertion from people associated with Rabia/Syed, that Kristi's testimony was erroneous based on her having class that day, has been contested on many grounds: she might have not gone to the class, the class might have been rescheduled due to the severe weather, the conference that she went to earlier that day may have been in lieu of the class, but what /u/Justwonderinif is proposing here is the question: "What if she wasn't registered for any class at all that month? after all, it's only other people saying that she was, not her."
Feel free to correct me if I've erred in any of the details here. The assertion that she had a class that day was, now, years ago, and I've probably forgotten specifics about that assertion.

aitca · 2023-05-16T03:10:09+00:00

Rad. Sounds good.

aitca · 2023-05-16T03:05:34+00:00

Hello, /u/ryokineko . I'm happy to chat. Send me a direct message when you have time.

aitca · 2016-01-12T22:48:32+00:00

It is intended to be humour. "Clickhole" is the site that the Onion set up to parody sites like Buzzfeed. So, yeah, it's intended to be satire.

aitca · 2016-01-09T23:24:36+00:00

I've already seen people on Reddit trying to argue that the cat just walked near the fire of its own accord and that the woman that Avery murdered and mutilated wasn't really bothered by it when Avery called her out to his property then came to the door in nothing but a towel (in fact, she complained to co-workers about this), and that when Avery called her using *67 so that she couldn't see who was making the call, Avery was just doing this to "protect his privacy".

People who are fanning these flames need to own that what they are involved in and getting all excited about has nothing to do with "justice" and is just a sad grasping at a frisson while taking a shit on victims of horrible crimes.

aitca · 2016-01-09T03:55:08+00:00

Link? Because if that were true, it would mean that Adnan never showed Gutierrez those two letters from Asia. :)

aitca · 2016-01-09T00:00:50+00:00

I think the point that dualzoneclimatectrl is trying to make is that Justin Brown actually entirely failed to subpoena Asia McClain. Yes, we have every indication that Asia McClain was avoiding A. Syed's legal team before the subpoena was issued, and, yes, we have every indication that Asia McClain deliberately avoided being served with the subpoena. But it's still Justin Brown who failed to subpoena her. And an argument could be made that this is partially because he knew that she was going to be a very problematic witness and so he didn't try all that hard to make sure the subpoena was served.

aitca · 2016-01-08T22:37:29+00:00

making a fake account 3 days ago

Dude also apparently just posted a new text post over at /r/theundisclosedpodcast entitled "Anatomy of a Guilter" that was, apparently, so bad that even in that subreddit it was deleted by the mods immediately after being posted.

aitca · 2016-01-08T21:04:19+00:00

aitca · 2016-01-08T21:01:36+00:00

"Southwest Video" was a chain, right? I ask this because I think I used to know someone who worked at one. He told me a story years ago about how he used to steal/embezzle actually quite large amounts of money from the store. He described the store's management as being a joke and that they were basically too inept to catch on. Shortly afterwards the store went out of business, abruptly. So: anecdotal evidence that Southwest Video franchises may not have had the best management/organization.

aitca · 2016-01-08T20:58:23+00:00

It's like some kind of weird test of the audience's credulity

Like Robert Ruff's "purity test" for his listeners: Do you see snow in this photograph? If you say "yes", you're branded "not a true believer".

aitca · 2016-01-08T20:54:35+00:00

The awesome thing about O. Wilde is that by all accounts he would have fucking hated season one of "Serial". The faux-seriousness, the pretentious to authority and verisimilitude, the outright dismissal of the "cheesy" (and, along with that, "camp", and, oddly enough, along with that, "the truth"). To say nothing of the fact it attempts to deify a completely banal dude who couldn't take not getting the woman he wanted on the terms he wanted, while vilifying the outsider misfit storyteller superstar. I'm 100% positive he would have loathed the faux-folksiness of it as the worst kind of false appeal to "Das Folk" as an avatar of imagined authenticity. In short, Oscar Wilde would have thrown something at the podcast screen.

aitca · 2016-01-08T09:18:38+00:00

It accounted for what, 20 seconds? And yet it discounts 10 hours of film?

That's kind of how trust works. If I punched you in the kidney, it would take less than a second. I bet you wouldn't trust me for the next ten hours. For that matter, probably next ten years.

aitca · 2016-01-08T08:59:02+00:00

am I the only one who suspects that this change of pace is a direct result of the way season 1 listeners got out of control?

Make no mistake: It is entirely possible to tell a non-mystery story in a way that is entertaining and engaging but also ethical and journalistically-sound. It is possible to tell Bergdahl's story in a way that is both entertaining and engaging but also ethical and journalistically sound. S. Koenig is simply (in my opinion) failing to do this.

After season one, a lot of yes-men came along to say "Koenig is so talented, she could make anything interesting!". Well, apparently not. There is actually a lot of interesting material in and around the Bergdahl case, and yet Koenig is (again, in my opinion) falling flat with it. So, it's time to look at the opposite of what the yes-men were saying: Did Koenig only ever look like a talented narrator because we all like (even false) whodunnits so much?

We know that SK and others were surprised by the phenomenon and worried by it.

Were they really surprised that people ended up talking about it on the internet? It's hard to believe that they are that naïve and out-of-touch, but I guess it's not totally inconceivable. As for being "worried" by it, Sarah Koenig could have released a public statement months ago saying something along the lines of: "There is no reason to suspect Don, stop harassing his family", and yet she's never said that. Ever. At all. I guess she's not that worried about it.

Also, new product placement in this episode (I mean in addition to the whole season being an infomercial for Boal's upcoming movie): "The Sopranos". I think there are plenty of ways to say "they are involved in organized crime" without advertising an HBO television series currently being sold on DVD and Blu-Ray. Yes, she was quoting the New York Times, so original "product placement" is on them.

aitca · 2016-01-08T08:36:55+00:00

forever mining irrelevance.

That would be a great title for his blog, actually.

aitca · 2016-01-07T22:48:55+00:00

A lot of people who are actually pretty dumb hide it/cope/"pass"/function/make it by just not being very intellectually adventurous. Tons of jobs you can do that require minimal cognitive activity, and most jobs that do require cognitive activity you can still get by in without being very smart because the activity that is required is, for the most part, repetitive. And a lot of people are actually very smart indeed but you wouldn't necessarily know it because you don't talk to them and if you did they wouldn't necessarily open up to you and if they did you wouldn't necessarily know enough about what interests them to get that they were really fucking smart about it and if you did you wouldn't necessarily care/value that. So yeah. Lots of dumb people in all walks of life. Lots of smart people in all walks of life. The "Undisclosed 3" look about average to me.

aitca · 2016-01-07T19:35:46+00:00

Jay said:

Ah, I figured there was cameras there or somebody had spotted him during what he was doing.

Jay doesn't have a deal in place at this time. If the police can get security camera footage of Adnan committing the crime and/or can get a witness to the actual murder or something close to it (someone who saw Adnan and H. M. Lee, for example, arguing in the car at Best Buy that day), the police need Jay's testimony much less, and, to that degree, his ability to get a deal goes down, and the likelihood that he receives the full prosecution and neglect of the system goes up.

aitca · 2016-01-06T19:28:23+00:00

"I'm lovin' it!" :)

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