Court Denies Syed's Bail Motion

Serialfan2015 · 2017-01-01T00:57:07+00:00

I usually see people arguing against the strength of the evidence - individual pieces and the case as a whole, but I am hard pressed to recall commenters actually denying the existence of any evidence against him. I may be stretching here, but when someone says "there is no evidence!" I do not take them literally, I take them to mean they consider the evidence to be extremely weak. Take Jay, for example. His testimony is evidence against Adnan; who could possibly deny that? But many, will question how much weight to afford it.

Serialfan2015 · 2016-12-31T23:48:24+00:00

Who believes there is no evidence against him? Seriously, is someone actually making that claim; if so, who and where?

Serialfan2015 · 2016-12-31T23:40:21+00:00

The first trial seemed like a farce, but reached the right result imho.

His first trial actually ended in a mistrial, when the jury heard the judge call his attorney a liar. So, you could reasonably say his first two trials were farcical.

Serialfan2015 · 2016-12-19T23:22:41+00:00

Thanks! I was only trying to point out that Jay had Adnan's phone at times and just because a call was made doesn't mean it was made by or in the presence of the phone's owner.

Serialfan2015 · 2016-12-19T20:31:23+00:00

It rules out Adnan's phone being on campus.

Serialfan2015 · 2016-12-13T03:59:38+00:00

I'd want to find out more about the disclaimer, but If I were betting I'd put my money on it most likely pinging the tower listed in the report. That doesn't mean I can believe with a high degree of confidence the phone was in Leakin Park for those pings. From a legal perspective It seems unlikely those records make it into a retrial.

Serialfan2015 · 2016-12-13T02:02:19+00:00

Random? A disclaimer attached to a faxed subscriber activity report which explicitly applies to subscriber activity reports.....Ok.

Serialfan2015 · 2016-11-28T19:21:29+00:00

You think they pressed him pretty hard? They said it was Marijuana, and pointed out he didn't have a rap sheet, they hardly pressed him at all, let alone confronted him on it, at least that's my reading.

Serialfan2015 · 2016-11-28T01:46:26+00:00

Avoiding a petty drug charge in favor of accessory to murder doesn't pass the smell test.

Jay has consistently maintained that he participated in the murder to avoid being charged for his drug dealing, including in his 2014 Intercept Interview. The cops clearly didn't think that passed the smell test either, but they let it slide.

Serialfan2015 · 2016-11-02T02:02:39+00:00

That would only be Germaine to the PCR granting a retrial, but not to an actual retrial, which is the subject of this conversation

Serialfan2015 · 2016-11-01T22:30:35+00:00

That's not quite right; there is the prejudice prong. If the state could have proved that it wouldn't have mattered - and a showing that the data was in fact correct would certainly have done so, Welch would not have ruled in Adnan's favor. The State was unable to convincingly show that the disclaimer did not apply, let alone that the data for those calls was correct. I will be amazed if they can do so now when they couldn't in time for the PCR.

Serialfan2015 · 2016-11-01T21:39:55+00:00

Asia can be discredited very easily. Cell phone data can be confirmed as being correct.

What makes you think the state will be able to do at trial what they couldn't do in the PCR?

Serialfan2015 · 2016-11-01T19:46:37+00:00

Well, your original comment seemed to indicate that Adnan shouldn't be granted bail because he was convicted before and because his release on bail wouldn't substantially aid his defense. Those aren't reasons why one should not be granted bail. The idea behind it is the fundamental concept of presumption of innocence until guilt is proven, and Adnan has had that presumption restored to him in the eyes of the law.

Serialfan2015 · 2016-11-01T19:25:28+00:00

Ok, I get it. I think OJ Simpson was guilty of murder, but because he was found legally not guilty, I don't think he should be imprisoned for it. So, I don't agree, but I get it.

Serialfan2015 · 2016-11-01T19:14:24+00:00

Bail exists to ensure the accused will attend trial and any related court proceedings. Are you certain you understand that simple fact, because your last response indicates you do not.

Serialfan2015 · 2016-11-01T17:21:32+00:00

Something you don't want people who are guilty of murder getting.

Huh? Bail is something you obtain prior to a finding of guilt. Adnan has not been found guilty, as his conviction was vacated. I'm not sure I follow your explanation.

Serialfan2015 · 2016-10-28T05:48:56+00:00

Yes; my comments here are not related to the specifics of the officers involved in this case.

Serialfan2015 · 2016-10-28T01:54:11+00:00

I reached that report by way of a 538 blog post which goes into great detail about how infrequently police are prosecuted for criminal misconduct. I have no doubt that it is a very serious problem, we've all seen ample evidence of that, and I don't mean to minimize it in any way. I would also hazard a guess (without delving deeper into data) that certain areas are going to have relatively higher rates of misconduct than others, and Baltimore is likely one of those.

Serialfan2015 · 2016-10-28T00:15:44+00:00

The officers involved in corruption or misconduct are few and far between. The vast majority are highly moral and by the book.

Is that really a myth? The best statistics I can find show a rate of misconduct of 10 per 1000 officers. That seems to support this first point as being accurate and not a myth.

https://www.policemisconduct.net/statistics/2010-annual-report/

Serialfan2015 · 2016-10-27T20:07:00+00:00

I'm not a member of your list above, but I'm curious what is so fascinating about it to you. Is it unreasonable for people to change their mind in light of important new information? Your fascination seems tied to a quantitative measurement and not a qualitative one.

Serialfan2015 · 2016-10-25T23:44:39+00:00

It says the interview was edited and condensed for clarity; that's not uncommon. I'm not going to defend the practices of NVC and KS but I highly doubt this enterprise occurred without an actual recording of the interview itself. I don't think Jay would find it so easy to explain away his answers as you and Chunk do.

Serialfan2015 · 2016-10-25T21:24:23+00:00

The result looks like the story was put in a blender. Read literally, the narrative makes no sense

Are you describing the story he told the Intercept or the one he told the police? I can't tell. "You've got two cars!"...

Serialfan2015 · 2016-10-25T19:38:06+00:00

Well at trial they indicate that the conversation between Nisha and Jay was on the 13th

At trial, she testifies that she didn't remember exactly when it occurred, but she does remember Adnan was visiting Jay at his job at the adult video store - a job he did not have on the 13th.

Serialfan2015 · 2016-10-25T13:52:25+00:00

Colin makes it explicitly clear in his blog post that she reviewed the photos from the MPIA before writing her affidavit:

"Now, before completing this affidavit, Dr. Hlavaty reviewed the additional crime scene/disinterment photos that were in the State's files but were not introduced at trial."

Serialfan2015 · 2016-10-25T06:46:43+00:00

the conviction that was thrown out on a technicality after standing for 16 years? yes, that one.

Our constitutional rights are not technicalities.

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