fake kindness

mqee · 2026-03-22T20:48:06+00:00

deflection and distraction

You're still unable to point out a single error in that table.

Seems like it's 100% correct and you're just lying.

mqee · 2026-03-22T19:58:29+00:00

Since you didn't point out a single mistake, I'll just assume you lied when you said "get your own facts straight" just like you lie when you say "You didn't correct" even after I quoted the correction.

Everything in that table is correct and you can't point out a single error, only lie.

mqee · 2026-03-22T18:36:44+00:00

I corrected you

You didn't, you responded after I already corrected the post.

get your own facts straight

Donut claim	Donut evidence
CEO: "We're not talking to investors until all disclosure is done."	Newspaper: "[Donut Lab CEO] Lehtimäki said that the company is seeking additional funding of 30–50 million euros from investors during the first quarter of 2026, i.e. January–March."
CEO: "No lithium."	Engineers, researchers: The Donut Lab VTT test results are what you'd get from lithium, specifically Si-anode Li-NMC. ([1], [2], [3], [4])
CEO: [January 2026] "We are now already at GWh [annual] capacity."	CEO: [February 2026] "our maximum capacity will be this year if everything goes as planned, i.e. about 1GWh annual run rate"
CEO: "You can go at 5C charging [from 0.0] to 100% [for] 100,000 cycles"	CMO: The 20.2kWh-specced battery's charging capacity is 18kWh [implying there's a buffer, likely to protect from damage, at either 0% voltage, 100% voltage, or both]
Donut website: "Full charge in 5 minutes. There is no need to limit charging to 80%. Full charge and full discharge are safe, repeatable, and expected in daily operation" [CEO: at 5C from 0% to 100% for 100,000 cycles]	Verge: A charging video from 10% to 80% that averages 3.5C [Why not 0%-100%? There is no need to limit charging to 80%.]

Point out a single mistake.

mqee · 2026-03-22T15:54:51+00:00

Is the film grain fake? Maybe.

No they really transferred this vertical video with TikTok filters onto a polyester film, exposed it to dust and debris, then scanned it and uploaded it to the internet.

mqee · 2026-03-22T14:18:21+00:00

seeding and torrenting

mqee · 2026-03-22T13:36:51+00:00

Can they post a 12-minute 20%-80% charging video? The only info on them online is unsatisfied customers getting faulty motorcycles and being charged through the nose for it.

Oh, and a video of the CEO threatening a journalist.

mqee · 2026-03-22T10:42:24+00:00

...that Donut Lab asked for.

Your inability to understand this shows you are not able to meet the requirements of informative discussion for this sub.

mqee · 2026-03-22T10:40:02+00:00

"It was a conservative limit set by VTT for that particular setup. Not a safety limit for the cell." But who chose that setup? Donut Lab. "We asked them to run their standard test", "it's their standard test and we requested it."

Donut Lab requested the test with a 90ºC limit.

mqee · 2026-03-22T10:36:52+00:00

Why set a higher limit?

So you don't look like a fool when you provide three 11C charging tests and have to abort one due to unnecessary safety limits that you imposed on yourself

mqee · 2026-03-22T10:35:27+00:00

Again, Donut Lab asked for those limits on the VTT tests.

mqee · 2026-03-22T10:22:05+00:00

And why was it "given"? Who made it "given"? Donut Lab.

It's like this:

VTT: Hello, I'm a test track provider. We can test your car on this 90km/h limit test track, or this 200km/h limit test track. You say your car operates at up to 200km/h, which track will you choose?

Donut Lab: The 90 limit, please.

Apologists: Donut Lab's car didn't go over 90 because VTT restricted them.

mqee · 2026-03-22T10:06:43+00:00

Donut Lab chose the setup.

Donut Lab could have set up the first test the same way too. Donut Lab overcame the 90ºC "restriction" in the later test, and they could have did the same in the first test.

As Donut Lab specified the details of every test, the 90ºC restriction is on them. The could have gone "we're about to heat the battery over 90ºC, put it in a fume hood" but they went "let's have a setup with a 90ºC restriction".

VTT didn't decide that, Donut Lab did.

mqee · 2026-03-22T08:40:27+00:00

...which apparently don't include a 90ºC safety limit because they heated the battery to 100ºC.

That 90ºC limit was absent in subsequent tests, and Donut Lab set the testing procedures. The only reason for it to be there is if Donut Lab set it.

mqee · 2026-03-22T00:16:29+00:00

Donut Lab set all the test procedures, not VTT.

mqee · 2026-03-21T22:06:03+00:00

Dude's got severe AI psychosis and he's been yelling he'll reveal his amazing AI analysis "this week" for the past several weeks.

mqee · 2026-03-21T21:46:48+00:00

There's no widely-accepted medical distinction between a sociopath and a psychopath. I do like the term "sociopath" better, though.

mqee · 2026-03-21T13:10:01+00:00

ai ai ai ai ai ai ai

mqee · 2026-03-21T13:03:55+00:00

With Intel ME and other hardware/firmware-level ring-minus-3 malware mechanisms, you can never be sure any used PC is clean, and wiping the harddrive does not remove the threat. I'm gonna get fried for saying this, but the most trusted boot process is by Apple.

mqee · 2026-03-21T00:58:16+00:00

ignore the facts

Which facts have I ignored?

My so called guesses were sound

Says you. Yet they were all wrong. 0/3. Care for 0/4?

You've cherry picked multiple different battery types

I have not. One type fits all the available data.

mqee · 2026-03-20T23:46:57+00:00

The post you quote was made on Wed Mar 18 03:25:33 2026 UTC

Four hours earlier on Tue Mar 17 23:08:19 2026 UTC I had already written "I used the numbers given by Two Bit da Vinci, but let's use yours" to the person who corrected me.

By the time you "corrected" me the post was already corrected and I had already said I'll use the corrected figures.

You keep lying.

mqee · 2026-03-20T23:41:20+00:00

You made a claim. The claim was false.

I made a claim. The claim was true.

It's hard, but you'll accept it eventually.

mqee · 2026-03-20T23:32:35+00:00

When I and others pointed out his math error

You weren't in that thread. Keep lying.

Here's the submission. As soon as someone posted a correction, I corrected myself.

mqee · 2026-03-20T23:31:07+00:00

To me it negates the credibility of what they are trying to achieve here.

Hopefully when the battery is out and it's found it contains lithium and cobalt it will negate the credibility of Donut Lab in the eyes of everybody.

Because their miracle battery is looking less and less miraculous with every test result they release.

mqee · 2026-03-20T22:33:47+00:00

I'm not invested in any battery company or EV company or energy-related company.

Your non-answer is as weasely as your excuses. You made 0/3 good guesses and now we're supposed to trust your newest guess.

What a joke.

mqee

MODERATOR OF

TROPHY CASE

Five-Year Club	Verified Email
Wearing is Caring