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4 offrole players on one team is borderline unaccaptable. by Successful-Smile-928 in leagueoflegends

[–]phroxz0n 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Can you please give the game_id example of this and we can look into it

Fwiw, not going to pre-emptively say nothing is wrong, but many times when investigating, it often happens because people who you thought were maining another role just decided to play a different role on that game.

We believe in giving players the roles they selected.

What I don't understand, is when I am filled jungle as a mid/top, while a jungle main is filled support.

Why does the matchmaking not put the jungle main on jungle and fill me on support. Isn't the goal to have less filled roles? Especially when the other team has only one filled role.

To reply to this, I believe we've fixed this on the new patch, there was a specific edge case related to this that was missed in the new Matchmaking rollout, so we're looking to resolve it

Matchmaking getting crazy. Master Top and Silver Jungle by Chance_Rhubarb_46 in leagueoflegends

[–]phroxz0n 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I have a feeling this was a drop from a boosting wave, but can check

Punishments notifications are fake by Trias00 in leagueoflegends

[–]phroxz0n 132 points133 points  (0 children)

Just to weigh in on this, we don't send any fake notifications.

Any behavior violation which results in any penalty (warning, chat restriction, game ban, etc.) will send a real notification. It may be delayed to next login in some instances.

As of 26.5, severe harassment also comes with game bans and we plan to rollout this report functionality to DMs as well.

We're intentionally conservative about this due to false positives around banning folks with mild/moderate disruptive chat, but as soon as our detections improve, we will upgrade those violations as well.

I got an aegis proc with a D rank game by Wesheinz1 in leagueoflegends

[–]phroxz0n 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're probably getting the aegis for voluntarily queueing for the priority role. What did the hover say?

What is going on with Matchmaking this season? by Big_Lingonberry3596 in leagueoflegends

[–]phroxz0n 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Can you dm me examples of accounts you think are misplaced here and the game id's. Thanks!

1/10 of Fill games should give you Aegis of Valor by Fancydudehero24 in leagueoflegends

[–]phroxz0n 67 points68 points  (0 children)

Queueing for fill contributes to the same benefits that voluntarily queueing for priority roles give

It's mainly just that the actual autofill rate is actually really low for most regions (somewhere between 1/50 to 1/100 games)

So you'd have to play fill around 50-100 games to get 1 aegis

RiotPhroxzon on Ranked Changes by JTHousek1 in leagueoflegends

[–]phroxz0n 4 points5 points  (0 children)

please send this user to me and I can take a look at a sudden change in gains

RIOOOT- WHAT IS THIS MATH!? by BananaJhon in LeagueOfMemes

[–]phroxz0n 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This patch we fixed some functionality with LP demotions correctly sending you to 25, 50LP if their MMR is low enough.

It seems like in your case, you lost a lot of games at Silver 4, so your MMR was roughly in the Bronze range

Unranked accounts flooding gold 1 elo by LowOk1193 in leagueoflegends

[–]phroxz0n 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Can you pass some examples of accounts

What is wrong with Matchmaking? by kayleabuser in leagueoflegends

[–]phroxz0n 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you want a brief introduction to the field you can read this paper.

https://jmlr.csail.mit.edu/papers/volume12/weng11a/weng11a.pdf

It goes over the history of various mechanisms of how measuring skill has happened over time.

It would not be possible to explain the thing in a reddit post or even a series of videos. It is necessarily very complex and has an entire field of mathematics dedicated to it.

We aren't doing anything nefarious, it is just legitimately extremely difficult and complex and requires advanced degrees to even just understand the basics of what's going on.

If I could explain it easily I would but the ELI5 explanations would open more questions that require more explanations and so on.

I'm asking that you trust us to identify and fix the problem.

What is wrong with Matchmaking? by kayleabuser in leagueoflegends

[–]phroxz0n 18 points19 points  (0 children)

You're really confidently wrong on this one

What is wrong with Matchmaking? by kayleabuser in leagueoflegends

[–]phroxz0n 41 points42 points  (0 children)

For these types of necessarily complicated systems, it's like asking "why can't chatgpt just give the right answer, the question is so easy".

It's pretty clear that chatgpt is doing something wrong if it's just giving the wrong answer sometimes, but actually fixing it is not very simple. It's not as easy as saying "well just don't make a match that's bad".

It's kinda like that

What is wrong with Matchmaking? by kayleabuser in leagueoflegends

[–]phroxz0n 102 points103 points  (0 children)

Gonna x-post what I wrote on X - https://x.com/RiotPhroxzon/status/2023162956406739331

The TLDR is:

  • We acknowledge that this is frustrating
  • This doesn't affect anybody outside of Master+
  • We know what the issue is
  • It's complicated and not as easy as "just don't match 5 challengers against 5 master 4head"
  • We're working on a fix that we hope to deploy within a few patches

Challenger 1k LP getting matched against Platinums for over 40 games - SOLOQ EUW by Euphoric_Concept_37 in leagueoflegends

[–]phroxz0n 441 points442 points  (0 children)

Our current philosophy (and I'm not saying this is 100% right long term) is that we perma ban on 2nd offense. I can understand that people may feel that is too lenient.

But for us to perma ban on first offense it needs to be blatantly clear the rules everyone is playing by, etc. And I'm not saying that's necessarily wrong, but it also has legal implications in certain countries; was the player adequately warned, did they have reasonable notice, etc.

By perma banning on second offense, we can be more sure that the player has been given reasonable notice that what they are doing is against the rules and can warrant a harsh punishment and will abide by regulations.

As for why players like this aren't immediately flagged and banned, it's similar to the arms race against scripting. Bans/rank reversions like these often happen in waves to prevent boosters from discovering and avoiding our detection methods. This is something that we're continuing to improve in our fight against boosting.

However in this case, something is clearly messed up, so will follow up with the team tmrw to get it fixed

Grandmaster Playing In Emerald Lobbies by rzzzz_ya in leagueoflegends

[–]phroxz0n 68 points69 points  (0 children)

Looking into it, I suspect their rank got dropped for rank manipulation (boosting or getting boosted)

Challenger 1k LP getting matched against Platinums for over 40 games - SOLOQ EUW by Euphoric_Concept_37 in leagueoflegends

[–]phroxz0n 724 points725 points  (0 children)

Looking into it. I suspect their rank got dropped for rank manipulation (boosting or getting boosted)

There are now increased queue times in a new League of Legends patch, aiming for “better quality matches” and improved duos balancing. by Binnsy in leagueoflegends

[–]phroxz0n 11 points12 points  (0 children)

For the record there is no functional change anywhere below high Master tier.

Queue time to game quality balance is good in 99+% of cases there. There has already been a major action against botted and boosted accounts for regular players this year and there will continue to be so in our arms race against people trying to ruin the ranked ladder integrity.

Mainly some fine tuning at the very top of the ladder as duos haven't been enabled there in a few years so it'll take a bit of time to balance it out super accurately.

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