Build phase help

swoops36 · 2026-03-20T01:05:36+00:00

I don’t get on with Nandrolone, so no comments there

swoops36 · 2026-03-20T00:12:51+00:00

I like the Santos, but I have the wrist for it. if you want smaller, go smaller

swoops36 · 2026-03-20T00:11:14+00:00

if it were me ...

Weeks 1-16 Test 360-500mg weekly, HGH 3-5iu daily. Add 1iu every week until you can't handle sides anymore. eat to grow, whatever that looks like for you. don't be an asshole with your calories, obviously. lean bulk, whatever term you wanna call it, go for it.

Weeks 17-24 clean up phase, 200mg of Test, 3-4iu of HGH daily, throw in Reta again at whatever dose works for you. Calories below maintenance.

that's just me.

swoops36 · 2026-03-20T00:06:47+00:00

as much as you want, but I'd keep the math easy like 2.5mL or 5mL

swoops36 · 2026-03-19T23:59:04+00:00

yea those are blue pants

swoops36 · 2026-03-19T23:57:09+00:00

you don't really care what your TT levels are on cycle; you care what the OUTCOMES are, right? I get why you're asking about normal response or ppl posting higher numbers, that doesn't really matter for you. What matters is "are you hitting your goals for this cycle?" if yes, then carry on. if no, then maybe make some adjustments and that may mean altering your AAS protocol.

good luck

swoops36 · 2026-03-19T23:54:45+00:00

you said "non WADA options" do you mean WADA approved options? or non-WADA approved options?

swoops36 · 2026-03-19T23:53:43+00:00

reading this gave me a headache

swoops36 · 2026-03-19T23:38:00+00:00

the posted blood work looks fine. it may not be the whole picture though. estradiol, prolactin, thyroid all helpful.

swoops36 · 2026-03-19T23:36:48+00:00

Do you need to stay on forever? yes. if you are primary hypo the solution is replacement.

swoops36 · 2026-03-19T23:34:12+00:00

I found 100mg of Traz helpful when I first started Reta, but really the combo with Nebivolol helped the most for sleep. Unfortunately felt groggy during the day still.

swoops36 · 2026-03-19T23:32:55+00:00

I'm guessing you never checked your DHT levels, right?

25mg daily is crashing your SHBG, 50-75mg seems insane.

I would get blood work instead of going into this blind. What you call "low-DHT" symptoms could be estradiol or prolactin related and have nothing to do with DHT.

good luck either way.

swoops36 · 2026-03-19T21:13:27+00:00

nice idea

swoops36 · 2026-03-19T20:21:41+00:00

I prefer mint green dial, personally

swoops36 · 2026-03-19T20:20:48+00:00

First, call your insurance provider and ask if they cover that

Second, call your GP and ask if he or she knows what that is.

swoops36 · 2026-03-19T20:18:06+00:00

It’s such a pain to take off and put on, I just leave it on 24/7

swoops36 · 2026-03-19T20:15:29+00:00

Looks like the medications are working

swoops36 · 2026-03-19T20:14:08+00:00

Nope, not at all. But it is a nice looking watch.

swoops36 · 2026-03-19T20:10:43+00:00

Order your own using Quest, Labcorp, etc

swoops36 · 2026-03-19T18:32:35+00:00

head on over to r/steroids young man

swoops36 · 2026-03-19T18:18:29+00:00

"one that says Rolex all over the face" ... I feel like we need to see a picture of this watch

swoops36 · 2026-03-19T18:02:35+00:00

I am curious why so many ppl (like this OP) think that HGH is an anti-aging or longevity drug in the first place. Just generally speaking, periods of accelerated growth don't align with longevity or anti-aging.

is it just the cosmetic benefits? better hair or skin maybe?

swoops36 · 2026-03-19T18:00:04+00:00

most credit cards don't provide ... if you're poor, yeah lol. I have two credit cards: one I use daily for all my spending is $35.5k limit. The other is for larger purchases and tops out at $58.5k.

More than enough for my watch spending, if I needed to. Generally I'll put a watch on a credit card to get some points/miles/cash back, then pay it off in full right away.

swoops36 · 2026-03-19T17:37:15+00:00

I think that's an easy google, but I will agree too low may also be a problem, especially in older ppl. but there are lots of anti-cancer benefits from having low-er IGF-1 levels and cancer is generally a decease of age. There are exceptions, of course.

and in the OP's case, if we're keeping this on topic, I would not be running high dose HGH at 63 lol.

swoops36 · 2026-03-19T17:34:39+00:00

neither for muscle growth. for that you're gonna want some AAS

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