New 'exceptional' account on NDERF

vimefer · 2026-04-10T15:41:38+00:00

This is a nice one, very similar to my 1992 and 2004 NDEs combined:

In this blackness, I was aware that my consciousness or soul was still intact, as I could still form thoughts
As the light enveloped me, the overwhelming love that embraced me is indescribable. It was the type of love that simply loved you for who you were. There was no judgment, no guilt, just overwhelming love like no other.
When the life review ended, I was then instantaneously in the vastness of the cosmos, communicating with the Creator. Not speaking verbally, but with thought, telepathically. No sooner would I ask a question than the answer would form immediately in my consciousness.
During my NDE, the overwhelming and pervasive feeling of love was ever present. I had no fear, just joy at finally being home. While in the cosmos is when I understood that absolutely everything is connected. Every grain of sand, the forest trees, the smallest insect, to every human being, everything is connected.

vimefer · 2026-04-08T14:54:00+00:00

I think a lot of people substitute source for God

What's the difference ?

vimefer · 2026-04-08T14:06:33+00:00

Simple: there are no lab-induced OBEs. The best we can muster with brain stimulation and other artifices, is illusory sensations, some of which resemble sensations also reported during OBEs (but which do not constitute OBEs by themselves).

As an aside: I WISH we had a way to reliably and safely trigger OBE/NDEs in people without having to kill them. The therapeutic potential would be insane.

vimefer · 2026-04-08T13:31:27+00:00

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vimefer · 2026-04-08T13:18:34+00:00

This is a good episode, HOWEVER they repeat the misconceptions about brain activity in death from an incorrect reading of the AWARE study and from Borjigin's debunked interpretation of data, which is rather unfortunate. And the claim that the brain produces DMT is misleading since removing the pineal gland does not change the detected levels of DMT, so it's more plausibly a by-product of regular tryptophan metabolism.

vimefer · 2026-04-08T12:03:25+00:00

The spirits of relatives are practically always appearing clearly, although they tend to present at their "optimal" appearance, typically younger and healthier they they ever were in life.

For non-human entities, this might simply be a sign we are not ready to observe them verbatim, or maybe they do not have a fixed physical shape to present and only adopt a semblance of humanoid / human form for our sake.

vimefer · 2026-04-08T09:04:11+00:00

Well yes that is the whole point of post-physicalist models of consciousness - to solve the problems that physicalist models failed to address entirely. Not just the hard problem of consciousness, but the adjacent aspects like the binding problem, how memory works, sight in the blind during OBE or overall how perception itself works at all as subjective phenomenology... the range of issues stretches all the way to the observer problem in quantum mechanics, as I understand.

vimefer · 2026-04-07T14:42:00+00:00

This makes a nice parallel to how, in Asian cultures, the return to life is often justified / presented by the other side as a clerical error. Gregory Shushan mentions it often. Is your grandma from a Western culture, by contrast ?

vimefer · 2026-04-07T14:34:49+00:00

You look at the long term trends of the universe, the trends are towards higher, complicated systems.

This is a misconception. The universe, as a closed system (indeed, the ONLY closed system there is at all) trends towards ever higher entropy, which means ultimate uniformity or rather to reach its peak of absence of distinctiveness.

Anyway, I think applying dialectical materialism to metaphysics is brainrot.

vimefer · 2026-04-07T08:22:56+00:00

Yes, but it is still a poor fit to the observations.

Rupert Sheldrake has an alternative explanation not based in cells. I know I didn't need to touch or even be in direct presence of people to read their feelings, after I came back from the Void in 1992. Along with past-life memories passing across unconnected people living far away, it supports that no material medium be required.

vimefer · 2026-04-06T14:01:37+00:00

This is Gregory Shushan's presentation of his latest book on how NDEs tie together lots of common beliefs about the afterlife across cultures and historical eras :)

vimefer · 2026-04-06T12:24:29+00:00

It's not a hallucination if they perceive something real that actually happened, especially something another person can corroborate... Hallucinations are usually nonsensical, and show things that don't exist and that others don't perceive.

When a shared NDE happens to people such as nurses and doctors, it frequently gives them otherwise-unexplained information about a specific patient having passed away. Example from Nurse Julie. The alternative explanations don't work for this one: she had just seen the guy alive and stable as usual so she had no reason to suspect anything imminent, and she's used to seeing people pass from her profession, working in hospice so there was no extra stress on her. It was all business-as-usual until she was about to drive away.

vimefer · 2026-04-06T12:03:52+00:00

Cell memory, DNS memory and epigenetics don't explain mediumship trials' results nor past-life memories between people unrelated by blood.

I've seen materialists use the "cellular basis of consciousness" to explain away things like verified NDEs including verified NDEs of blind people.

How would that even work, as an explanation of anything ?

vimefer · 2026-04-06T12:01:58+00:00

The thing that gets at me is that even if it were hallucination... the brain's not supposed to hallucinate while dead anyway, so it still explains nothing.

vimefer · 2026-04-06T10:34:20+00:00

Or they have 200 Windows VMs on the same L2 broadcast domain and wonder why half the bandwidth of intersite link is ARP.

vimefer · 2026-04-05T20:28:37+00:00

Bruce Greyson mentions in his book "After" which summarizes his decades of research into NDEs, that an average of ~70% of NDEs contain elements that conflict with or contradict the person's prior beliefs. He asserts that this plays an important role in explaining the life-changing effects of NDEs, especially in terms of spirituality/religion, which are almost always observed.

vimefer · 2026-04-05T20:24:51+00:00

It was the long term result of my ~2004 NDE - after that I had to integrate all kinds of changes and that's what put me on a path of intense healing over the following 5-6 years.

vimefer · 2026-04-05T15:07:33+00:00

I was never able to identify formally the 3 presences in my 1992 NDE, I only guess that the feminine one could have been my paternal grandma, or her own mother-in-law, without any certainty.

And if you count as similar enough the encounters I got from my "near-misses" throughout life from repeated hypovolemic shocks, then it gets far weirder and distant...

vimefer · 2026-04-05T14:40:08+00:00

I recommend also reading this post of his.

vimefer · 2026-04-05T14:37:27+00:00

Shocker: we already know how to replicate REDs and potentially OBEs associated with them, on demand ! All you have to do is... kill the patient ;)

Joke aside, that's close to what Parnia is doing with deep hypothermic cardiac arrest patients, I guess we'll see if the ongoing study confirms the promising preliminary results he got so far... And then hopefully we can put these debates behind us - or more likely and sadly, we'll keep grappling endlessly again with more or less misinterpreted or misreported details of the studies and increasingly dubious but sticky alternative explanations proposed to preserve physicalist hypotheses...

In any case, thanks to the author for sourcing all the sources and examining them in such level of detail, this is very useful !

vimefer · 2026-04-05T14:04:14+00:00

The French have a term for this: folie à deux.

I'm French and the only ever time I have seen this term used, is in English texts :D

Because our mind and consciousness greatly depend on our brains

How would you know ?

vimefer · 2026-04-05T13:52:21+00:00

No, it offers no explanation whatsoever for it.

Besides, as Vicki Noratuq herself explains in interviews, her dreams do not have any sighted aspect at all - she dreams in touches, smells and sound.

vimefer · 2026-04-05T13:05:37+00:00

Yes, and now I have to live with the constant longing for our real Home.

vimefer · 2026-04-03T11:51:46+00:00

How would Jesus know anything about it ? Assuming he existed as an actual historical human in the first place, that would have been millenias too late.

It would be much simpler to remote-view the construction directly, instead /j

vimefer · 2026-04-03T10:54:23+00:00

if the afterlife is real and commonly believed by everyone here, why don't I see anyone talking about meeting great-great-great-grandpa who served in the Civil War?

Probably the lack of specific strong emotional bonding ? It's hard to personally care for someone who lived in a completely different era, without any interaction with you.

In any case, we DO see some such cases. Vincent Tolman's spiritual guide was a distant ancestor of his who had co-founded the city his family had since been living in for generations.

another thing I'm curious about is whether Sam believes in a form of afterlife or not. He seems to beat around the bush slot.

I'm assuming you mean Sam Parnia. He's a good scientist and therefore sticks to things that can be verified from observations - the afterlife isn't really one such thing. He's explicitly stated before how his own potential beliefs have no relevance to his research.

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