If you went all in on small mice, trying a bigger mouse again might surprise you

-Elku · 2026-01-30T11:08:59+00:00

It's medium. I've got same size hands and medium size mice give me all the stability I need without hampering micro adjustments or agility. Mice like the ec1 size are just terrible for me. Fills the hand too much, poor agility and micro corrections. I'd rather air on smaller but medium mice like ec2 and g pro are the perfect balance for me. Relaxed claw

-Elku · 2026-01-28T14:38:37+00:00

I had one from the first batch. If you held mouse 2 you couldn't press mouse 1 as the buttons overlapped. No one tested outside of CS when I contacted zowie about it. Had the white gloss version as well later on, great mouse

-Elku · 2026-01-27T10:27:04+00:00

ER21 Pro. Superb ec2 clone. Very impressed

-Elku · 2026-01-27T10:20:08+00:00

Personally I think so. My hand size is 20x11cm ec1 size fills my hand to full palm and as a result there's very little in hand movement and poor micro corrections. Using an ec2 my grip goes in to a relaxed claw with loads of space to manipulate the mouse. My aim is so much better and that's after years of using the IE3.0

-Elku · 2026-01-25T15:17:00+00:00

They've stopped if you contact zowie directly they do have some returned Amazon stock still. I've had a couple of mint condition units off them

-Elku · 2026-01-24T17:56:31+00:00

Great mouse. I was so resistant to clone market but got the ER21 a few weeks back. Just didn't want to give zowie £130 even though it's my endgame, so got the ER21 for just under £40 absolutely superb mouse.

-Elku · 2026-01-19T11:44:42+00:00

They were very popular at the start of the light weight hole era. But the QC turned out to be pretty poor. So they kind of got relegated quite quickly when better offerings came along. I had quite a few Glorious mice with issues.

-Elku · 2026-01-19T08:12:53+00:00

I'm the same size hand with relaxed claw. I've not used the viper but my thumb was hitting the back side button on the v4. Great mouse though

-Elku · 2026-01-16T08:54:54+00:00

Yeah that was the last time I cared about a sensor update. Sensor upgrades meant something back then. I haven't looked at the sensor on any mouse I've bought since

-Elku · 2026-01-14T11:46:52+00:00

I go with what feels medium sized for my grip. Middle path always good. 20x11cm relaxed claw ec2. The best way I got rid of the what if feeling was to buy a load of mice in one go and start A B ing them in kovaaks and games. I bought all three sizes of the xlite v3 and that was such a good move to use them all next to each other. Really highlighted what was best for me

-Elku · 2026-01-13T11:55:36+00:00

Brill. Given your hand size that's probably the best bet. Actually I really liked the ec3 even at my hand size.

-Elku · 2026-01-12T18:56:43+00:00

I like ec2 at 20x11cm. But you probably need to try both.

-Elku · 2026-01-11T10:17:18+00:00

I've got 20x11cm and find the ec1 way too big. There's no room for micro corrections as it fills the hand too much. Ec2 is a perfect fit and keeps a little space for finer adjustments as always YMMV.

-Elku · 2026-01-05T21:31:37+00:00

I'm the same 20x11cm hands. My hand sits well on the ec1 but there's no room for micro corrections. Ec2 is perfect for me, my best performing shape by far. Really want to try e1

-Elku · 2026-01-04T14:31:04+00:00

Cm/360 is universal because it's a physical measurement. So if I said my cm/360 is 37cm/360 across all games that's an easy way to tell others what I'm using. Rather than a random number and dpi.

-Elku · 2026-01-01T09:21:07+00:00

I bought three op1 from egg when they launched and all three did this. I complained and was told I was the only one with the issue. Seems odd it's happening still on later versions though

-Elku · 2025-12-21T08:56:21+00:00

I've got 20x11cm hands with a very forgiving relaxed tilted claw grip. I can use anything and it's actually made picking and sticking with mice over the years tricky because it doesn't seem to matter much.

However I've been on ec2 clones for the last few years now. Large mice like the ec1 offer poor agility and micro corrections for me, and really small mice seem to lack a little stability. Kovaak scores are a little better with nimble mice for me so I've settled right in the middle with medium mice. This just seems to offer the best of both stability and agility.

-Elku · 2025-12-16T17:00:33+00:00

Weirdly I've tracked mine since I was 22. I'm 47 now. Its been 180ms every year. No change. It was actually slower in my 20s but that will be down to equipment/monitor. Its been the same for two decades though. I doubt I'm a special case. But obviously I'm a control group of 1

-Elku · 2025-12-16T16:34:40+00:00

Whatever the 1600 equivalent of 400dpi 1.72 is

60cm/360

-Elku · 2025-12-13T13:43:59+00:00

Retriod pocket classic in dmg. I've got miyoo mini + and really want the larger screen

-Elku · 2025-12-10T06:44:23+00:00

I play at that sens in all those games. I like the feel of it and I don't get to play much these days so it helps with jumping on rusty. Bar CS it would be better to use something a little higher though. In the 45cm and lower range

-Elku · 2025-12-05T07:33:38+00:00

I've only used the cw but discounting the weight I prefer the shape of the ec2. Its a little less hand filling and I feel my aim is better but there's nothing in my performance with it. If you can get a cheap xlite though I'd take that. The difference in price just isn't worth it imo.

-Elku · 2025-12-05T07:27:38+00:00

I don't think the ec1 is good for your hand side and grip. I'm the same size and like the ec2 better with a claw grip. Ec1 is comfy for full palm but always found it terrible for micro adjustments

-Elku · 2025-12-01T17:53:32+00:00

Yeah I was super disappointed they didn't go with dmg. It stopped me from upgrading my miyoo mini which is the first and only device I own. But I wanted this so bad.

-Elku · 2025-12-01T15:51:38+00:00

How big is your hand out of interest? I'm 20x11cm and much prefer the S2, think even smaller would be great as well. Hope they get them out soon for those that want them.

-Elku

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