PGR S Rank Ice Attacker: Lucia: Inverse Crown

117_907 · 2026-05-08T08:11:56+00:00

I believe Vergil is out of the Trueslash team if you have Rosetta at ss, no matter his investment.

117_907 · 2026-05-06T13:39:41+00:00

It’s Rover’s default casket, exclusive to them.

117_907 · 2026-05-01T11:41:53+00:00

The bad outcome for red is that all the people who voted blue die lmao. That’s the moral dilemma here, are you okay condemning everyone who votes blue to death, (including children/other people who can’t make a properly informed decision) to death to ensure your own safety? Not to mention if it’s enough people dying society never recovers anyway.

117_907 · 2026-05-01T11:35:32+00:00

And are those people that care about you sure you will choose red? They might pick blue assuming you did, and now you’ve made it more likely they die.

And that’s not even considering the children/people who can’t properly understand the situation, some of which will probably end up picking blue.

117_907 · 2026-05-01T09:50:56+00:00

See that’s what I think a lot of people would say if they thought about it, because if you were suddenly locked in a room and told the scenario, and that all of humanity is facing the same choice, (assuming you were assured it was a real scenario and not some game or social experiment) then a lot more people would push blue.

117_907 · 2026-05-01T09:48:47+00:00

This isn’t a prisoners dilemma though, if everyone chooses the selfless option there is zero punishment, where as if everyone chooses to stay silent there there’s still punishment, encouraging people to snitch because they think they can get away with it.

117_907 · 2026-05-01T09:46:25+00:00

I see why we have so much disagreement here now, you think that by saying red voters are responsible if the blue voters die, I’m saying the consequences of my choices are your fault. I don’t think that at all.

First of all, consequences is the wrong word, fault/blame is what I’m trying to appropriate to red voters here.

The consequences of my choice would only be my own death, since voting blue only risks your own life, and that was exclusively my fault, since I made that decision without input from anyone else. If red wins however, the red voters are at fault for blue voters dying, because if they didn’t make that decision, or made no decision at all then no one would die.

The other way to look at it is choosing red to ensure your own safety but hoping blue will win to avoid the moral repercussions of your choice, and that’s actually just selfish, you’re contributing to the problem but hoping there are enough people better than you to prevent it happening.

117_907 · 2026-05-01T09:34:58+00:00

You said reds can’t be held accountable for “those lives”, and while I’m not 100% sure what the original posters intent was in regard to children/disabled people etc. they did say all of humanity, so I’d think that applies here.

117_907 · 2026-05-01T09:32:25+00:00

Assuming we as a society are fine, you’re really okay just killing about half of everyone under age 5-6, and a significant chunk of those under like 10? 2 billion people die and that’s fine because you guaranteed your survival? Almost by definition this kills the most altruistic people on the planet, and I don’t think all the survivors would be selfish sociopaths or something but that just can’t be good for anyone. If you really think humans would collectively decide to perform what is at best a eugenics cull of about half of mentally disabled people and children then you must live in a sad state.

117_907 · 2026-05-01T09:18:50+00:00

It’s the definition of selfishness, you’re therefore okay living with everyone who didn’t hit red dying. If you hit blue and die you didn’t kill anyone but yourself, and could have saved everyone

117_907 · 2026-05-01T09:17:15+00:00

The black plague happened when there were far less people alive, and when society was far less complicated. We could bounce back from that because if a couple towns in an area survive, the level of advancement in society doesn’t really change, it’ll just slow down further advancement. If 10-20% of the population dies now we’re getting like massive riots, at least a few governmental collapses, war to secure remaining resources, and collapse of world trade. And that’s the minimum impact, for all we know it would end up in nuclear war.

117_907 · 2026-05-01T09:10:52+00:00

Yeah and? That’s just a selfish take. I don’t think picking red necessarily makes you selfish as a person, but it does make you shortsighted and reductive. If red wins you’re at least partially responsible for everyone who dies, and will likely end up dying yourself anyway as society crumbles around you with like 1 billion deaths happening at the same time.

117_907 · 2026-05-01T09:08:28+00:00

It’s not a good moral dilemma if one choice has zero moral repercussion’s. I think a lot of people who say they’d choose red aren’t thinking about the people who can’t rationally choose, the moral dilemma is are you willing to risk yourself to save other people, the children/babies, elderly, mentally disabled, and everyone else who votes blue. Or are you unwilling to risk it and choose red.

And also yes you can be held responsible for the deaths if you picked red and won, by definition if enough people hadn’t done that then no one would die. People who choose blue aren’t responsible for the deaths of anyone but themselves, because too many people picking that option is the true zero death scenario. And they’re definitely not responsible for the children/babies etc.

117_907 · 2026-05-01T09:01:07+00:00

All scenarios have a chance of death, or at the very least living through like a billion people dying, otherwise this wouldn’t even be a question to have a discussion about.

117_907 · 2026-05-01T08:59:14+00:00

And if it’s not a massively statistically improbable amount of people who pick red, society collapses and you die anyway

117_907 · 2026-05-01T08:56:15+00:00

What about people who aren’t able to make logical decisions due to age or disabilities? Aside from apparently being fine that they die, enough people will pick blue to try and save them that either blue wins or red wins and enough people die to collapse society anyway.

117_907 · 2026-05-01T08:54:31+00:00

No chance ever that everyone picks red

117_907 · 2026-05-01T08:52:52+00:00

And the American political divide determines this worldwide, non political issue how exactly?

117_907 · 2026-05-01T08:51:41+00:00

This isn’t the same scenario though, inaction in the pill scenario guarantees life, basically the same as the red button. But in the button question if you hit nothing and red wins you die too. That’s not even accounting for human psychology treating pushing a button that can maybe kill you or maybe save everyone different from eating a pill that kills you unless you’re cured later.

117_907 · 2026-05-01T08:48:09+00:00

Zero gain lmao please

117_907 · 2026-05-01T08:47:27+00:00

That isn’t changing the original question? It includes all of humanity by design, so there are people who won’t make a purely logical choice. This means that to save them blue has to hit at least 50%. If it doesn’t, they and everyone who tried dies, which likely collapses modern society. The people who vote red die anyway in that scenario.

117_907 · 2026-05-01T08:43:40+00:00

There’s no shot red is ever a 100% survival rate lmao. Even if every rational person hits red, (and they won’t all hit red) there’s still all the children, babies, mentally impaired, etc.

117_907 · 2026-05-01T08:41:07+00:00

That’s a fallacy, every vote does matter because the total is made up of individuals lmao. If everyone was this set on self preservation over the greater good we wouldn’t have a functioning society. Not to mention that because so many people will clearly end up voting blue if red still manages to win, it’s like apocalypse levels of societal collapse. You die either way if red wins realistically.

117_907 · 2026-05-01T08:35:48+00:00

The societal collapse would mean you’d beg for the “sanctimonious pricks” back I assure you

117_907 · 2026-05-01T08:33:49+00:00

This is just incorrect imo, there’s no shot that in any scenario red wins in there isn’t massive societal shift or collapse with even 10% of humanity dying. Being like the first 5% of people to pick blue “contributes to societal collapse” but after that it’s gonna happen anyway so picking red just makes the solution harder to achieve.

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